Don’t want to endorse Christianity necessarily but hard to get around saying the word Christmas or Xmas, so is Xmas more rebellious? Is there an even more rebellious or irreverent name for it?

Also, should I not even celebrate Christmas? What’s an alternative that features the presents-giving at the same time of year but in a way that isn’t tied in any way to religion (and ideally doesn’t involve killing turkeys)?

  • MrJameGumb@lemmy.world
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    Apparently saying “happy holidays” is rebellious enough to send some folks into unhinged rants about “the war on Christmas” lol

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    Despite what crazy right wing pundits say, “Xmas” is Christian. Chi (Χ) is the first letter of “Christ” written in the Greek alphabet. (Χριστός)

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      For me it will always be synonymous to extreme sports, i’m always picturing Jesus and Santa Claus doing sick snowboard tricks

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    Xmas was never intended to be a more secular alternative, it was originally created by scribes wanting to save space so they used the first letter of Christ in Greek, “Χριστός”.

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    If you wanna be rebellious around Christmas, all you gotta do is serve somebody a coffee in a red paper cup.

    But that aside, both “Christmas” and “Xmas” are equally religious. The X in “Xmas” is actually meant to be the initial for Christ’s name in Greek (Χριστός), so it’s still ultimately the same thing as saying “Christmas”.

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    I think christmas has lost it’s religious connotations, nobody I know thinks of it as a religious holiday at all. It’s just a time for giving gifts, showing love and spending time with meaningful people in your life.

    If you want a catch all though “Happy Holidays” covers it.

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    I would argue that in some ways, coopting these words and the nonreligious traditions would be excellent because it removes power from “them.”

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    Surprised nobody has posted Newtonmas. Celebrate a historical figure who had major impacts on our civilization by advancing science, and who was actually born on December 25!

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    In some countries Christmas is a national holiday. It’s simply the name of a holiday that affects everyone in my country (USandA). Because of that, it’s both a secular and religious holiday. So do what you want with that. Celebrate by worship, by spending money, by seeing family, or do nothing and enjoy the quietest day of the year (in my city, at least).

    And not to mention that Christmas isn’t even a real holiday; the Christians just co-opted and modified all the solstice holidays of every culture they conquered. The only “reason for the season” is to indoctrinate. Merry Christmas!

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      Kinda my take on it.

      The only aspect of Christmas that’s inherently Christian is the fact that it has ‘Christ’ in the name.

      When I was young it was a bit different- we’d pray on Christmas, have a themed tree, a little nativity scene setup. That sort of thing. I don’t do that anymore. Christmas is as religious to me as Valentines day, my birthday, Saint Patrick’s day, and Thanksgiving. It’s more a cultural event than a religious one, is what I’m getting at.

      If anyone wants a further example of “Christmas but not even slightly Christian”, try watching a few Christmas movies. A lot of them aren’t particularly religious. I recently saw Violent Night, it’s an excellent example lol.

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    You sound like a child who wants to be rebellious just for the sake of it. Celebrate Christmas or don’t, most people around you won’t even notice. If its to get back at a relative or parent, just tell em to fuck off. Makes it easier and you can still get gifts to your friends.

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    Christmas is basically a secular holiday for a lot of people these days anyway, but if optics really matter to you, just call it “Yule” or something.