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Yep
This also extends to other products. Don’t use your personal Gmail to do ‘TOS violating’ things. Better yet, separate it as much a possible with different devices, VPNs, etc.
Losing your primary email will SUCK
(Also make backups)
I don’t think it’s fair to lay blame on the consumers here, this is big tech acting as monopolies and should be prosecuted as such.
I don’t think anyone here is blaming the users, the comments are saying they shouldn’t be surprised.
Users blatantly violate TOS > company bans account > shocked Pikachu face
I agree with the above commenter that they should have expected this. I remember watching SnazzyLabs video about Beeper when it was about to come out, and the video essentially said ‘people have been doing this for awhile, I don’t think Apple will care about Beeper’ and I thought oh yes they will.
Do I think Apple is in the right here? No. Am I surprised they’re taking this action? Also no.
Violating the iMessage/iCloud user agreement can, yes, result in getting booted from the platform. It’s in the terms of service. It was a risk everyone took when using beeper. 
“How dare they access their own messages!”
I too like to champion a trillion dollar company over what’s morally right!
ah, yes, pointing out a simple fact = “championing” / taking a moral stance
if i point out that it happens to be raining outside today, am i also “championing” the rain, claiming rain to be morally right?
lol
Stop. Fucking. Raindancing.
My shoes are WET. You did this.
How do you know it’s against TOS or EULA to use your own credentials on your own Mac to send messages with your own apple ID in a secure way.
i know it’s against the iMessage TOS to use the service in a way it’s not intended to be used or in a way of which Apple disapproves, as beeper does.
Probably because they, unlike you, read the TOS and/or EULA
Did YOU read it? using beeper cloud is not against eula
No because I don’t use Beeper or have a iPhone or care about this really I just wanted to make annoying remarks in the comments and see if anyone dislikes the name “Beeper” as much as I do
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rude ._.
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getting through everyday life must be a challenge for you.
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No one gives a flying fuck about Apple’s TOS.
tell that to those who got booted from iMessage
They don’t give a shit either. Hence why they tried to bypass shitty iMessenger.
if it’s so shitty, why are they so obsessed with using the platform?
the only thing they’re trying to bypass is owning an apple device to get onto iMessage.
I’m calling it shitty. What are you even arguing? Forget it, I don’t give a fuck.
if you don’t give a fuck, why are you even here?
Tell that to the humancentipad! You clicked on agree TWICE!
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the users are holding their wallet the wrong way, probably
Welp, yep, get on the wrong side of a company and they can take everything you enjoyed from their “integrated” ecosystem away from you. That’s why we need to remove these types of walled garden monopolies.
Another episode of “trying to contact people behind some big company app because they haven’t heard what an Internet is”.
Can I just say that Beeper is the worst message app name I’ve ever heard? It fills me with inexplainable rage.
Beeper, Telegram, Signal, Pidgeon, Wire, Session… Every word related to sending a message.
It’s fine, apple users are not really people !
The rest of the world has moved to data messaging platforms while the US still sticks to SMS.
The rest is unfortunetly still using SMS for notifications or to text people not using the same app proprietary app or not using standard Internet messaging.
Meanwhile the Beeper app won’t even open on my computer.
At risk of sounding like a pretentious fuck, I do actually lose a tiny amount of respect for someone when I learn they have an iphone. It’s like baby’s first smartphone, great for elders and children.
That IS pretentious as fuck. How shallow do you have to be to judge people based on what electronics they own?
Oof. In my experience, Android phones are always better on paper when it comes to technical specs, but never when it comes to the user experience. I like technology, but mostly I need my phone to get out of my way and Apple just does it better.
I’m not blind, I know the downsides of Apple products, but I couldn’t go back to either Windows or Android after about 5 years in the Apple ecosystem.
When I found I could speed up every single transition animation and functionally halve the time it took me to do anything, I lost all patience for that walled garden. It’s literally just a single box in dev settings, I can also turn off any flashy bullshit that only serves to waste my battery.
Also when something doesn’t work on android, I actually have some recourse beyond waiting for apple to fix it for me.
The reason why you dug your own hole of pretentiousness is because you’re assuming there’s a right way of owning a phone.
There’s not.
For me, everything works just fine on iOs. Maybe if I was working in a tech-oriented field and I needed my phone to be very customizable and be able to run whatever I like, then I would not be happy with Apple. As an artist though I find the experience of Apple very pleasing. And this is how I have viewed the Android vs. Apple discussion for years now. Android is for techies and normies like your aunt, mom, etc. and Apple is for artists and normies who want a status symbol. Both are valid since you’re getting spied on anyway unless you’re wearing 5 layers of condoms before touching your phone.
I’ve enjoyed fucking with Android’s customizability a lot, but at the end of the day it has always gotten boring to me, the UX has sucked even when I set all the UI elements to my liking and the build quality of the phones has never felt good.
And I’m perfectly fine with that being my opinion because it’s based on my experience and it can change. I haven’t touched a Pixel phones which, I hear, are the best when it comes to Android, I’m sure there would be much to love, but if I have to pick a corpo’s dick to ride, I’m gonna jump on Apple’s instead of Google’s any day.
Maybe someday I will switch from macOs and iOs to Linux and [blank], but that day is not yet here because I don’t feel like jumping through hoops to get stuff working and then fixing it whenever it inevitably brakes. Apple…just works. And I know that’s the most banal, cliche thing to say about it, but in my experience, it does. For the most part at least. There are a few things that annoy me.
you’re assuming there’s a right way of owning a phone.
Except I’m literally not. I have a hard opinion about which is better, and sometimes I’m judgey.
Lotta people got a lotta piss in their cornflakes over something that, in my experience, more apple users do anyway. After all, it’s a well known phenomenon to get ghosted over wrong colored message bubbles. I don’t plan to cut contact with anyone over their phone preference, but I will make a couple inferences about their priorities when I see they’ve got the new $1200 iphone that just came out last month.
Doubly so when they also complain about how expensive something is. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Ye I never knew about the phenomenon. As other posters have pointed out - must be an American phenomenon. I don’t even use SMS.
and i’ll be the last person to argue for SMS. media messages are a fucking MESS, it’s a terrible standard in 2024
I mean, that is a bit pretentious, TBF.
I used to look down on people who got iPhones, but I realised it’s not their fault, there isn’t much choice when it comes to good, dependable, usable smartphones that have years of updates. I’m a Pixel owner, and it’s basically the same thing from the other side. Backed by one of the richest companies. The same goes with Samsung, although I personally find their phone software to be really mid.
I upgraded my iPhone XR to a 13 mini last year. I was close to choosing something running Android, but ultimately I just don’t want to jump that far in with Google. And really, there’s not much of an alternative out there.
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