Electric school buses are a breath of fresh air for children | Nearly $1B in federal funding could help clean up the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution.::Nearly $1B in federal funding will help decarbonize transportation and clean up some of the unequal health impacts of diesel pollution
For those of you who haven’t been in a school bus in years, do you remember how loud they are? Reducing diesel pollution is a win, but being in a less-noisy environment for however long each day is also a win.
As a cyclist and occasional user of public transit, I really like the idea of most buses eventually being at least plug-in hybrid-electric if not entirely battery electric. I’m curious about the mass difference between a diesel, diesel-electric, and battery-electric bus (after all, the heavier the vehicle, the harder it is on the road). I expect some of the fuel-and-maintenance-cost-savings from the bus fleet will have to go to road maintenance in the end, but I’d rather spend money that way (locally) than spend it on pumping fresh hot carbon out of foreign wellheads
Diesel-Electric Hybrid should also be considered as an option depending on the use case of the service area. As a hybrid, the bus wouldn’t need to run it’s diesel engine at the school pickup point, would have the the benefit of regenerative braking, and overall have better fuel economy, emissions, and longevity of the engine.
This would be beneficial to areas that are too rural and have too long of routes for the batteries to last and areas that have a lot of cold weather might not want to risk freezing their kids because the batteries suddenly have to both drive and heat the whole bus. Cities could be all electric because the routes are much shorter and overall be operating at lower speeds. Also, much more stop-and-go, so the regen braking will really shine.
Will people stop trying to put batteries in everything already? They are heavy, slow to charge, unsustainable, cause fires that can’t be extinguished and are affected by extreame weather(especially cold).
Public transit runs on predefined routes, for that you can setup trams(best option) or trolleybuses(no need for rails). I don’t care that you think the wires look ugly, they are objectively the better solution.
Do you not understand what a school buses job is? That route changes every year and not everyone lives where you can expect kids to be able walk to a high traffic bus stop.
If you had proper public transport that number would be quite negligible. Very very occasionally you see dedicated school buses in rural areas in Germany: Minivans. Which makes sense as boondonks areas might not have bus service but have collect taxis as only public transport, which generally are also minivans. Think living in a village of 50 and going to a school in another village, population of 2k or so. The scale of Wacken, maybe a bit smaller. Let me see… Yeah Bokelrehm doesn’t have a bus station. OTOH it’s like a kilometre from the school in Wacken so kids are probably biking (“Grundschule Wacken”, northern end of the village on the road to Bokelrehm).
Usually the most that happens is that a regular bus service gets a doubled-up schedule when school starts and ends.
Do you not understand that the comment I replied to mentioned most buses not just school buses?
The article is about school buses.
No technology ever comes out free of caveats, and trams, even though they are way better than busses, require years of public work on the infrastructure. That job should be started ASAP, but letting diesel run in the meanwhile is pointless
Which is why I said trolleybuses are the next best thing. Not as good as trams, but doesn’t take years to hang some wires on poles…