He signed an executive order on Thursday, saying violence had reached “intolerable levels”.

The sanctions will block the individuals from accessing all US property and other assets.

Violence in the West Bank has spiked since Hamas’s 7 October attack on Israel.

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    You misconstrued what I said. I meant they don’t have anything to offer either Israel nor Egypt. Even if they wanted to negotiate again, they don’t have anything going for them. Don’t twist my words to fit some other topic.

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      Tbh, if you don’t want people to misunderstand the things you say, then you need to start saying things with your chest. Stop posting inscrutable and reactionary blandities and start posting clear and intelligible opinions supported by as many facts as you’re able to muster. Lemmy will be a better place if you do :)

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        Wow so I don’t play along and you hit me with the “reactionary blandities”. You can confront what I said rather than spout off. I’m sure you have some great points to cover. I don’t particularly like being made a scarecrow but please educate me.

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          The point that I’m trying to make is that your comments are so nonspecific that it is impossible to “educate you” for the same reasons that it is impossible to nail a cloud to a wall. For example, in your first comment, you say that it is “Interesting how you used Oslo II and not the failed camp David summit options that Israel tried” but you don’t explain why you think it’s interesting or why they failed or why you think they should have succeeded but didn’t or any other jumping off point to give others a chance to agree with you or rebut you. You just said something bland and vague and impossible to pin down. How could anyone possibly agree or disagree or even have a discussion about a statement as generic as “I find this interesting!”?

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            Ummm all I tried to say was that it’s unfair to use a temporary solution (Oslo II) as the metric. I find it interesting that you can’t understand that. Do you want me to elaborate on why I find that interesting or do you want to address why the green line is still in contention? You seem to be an expert at deflecting.

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              Ummm all I tried to say was that it’s unfair to use a temporary solution (Oslo II) as the metric

              So say that with your chest! Say what you believe clearly and concisely exactly like you just did, explain why you believe what you do, and do it in a top-level comment without someone having to prompt you twice to do it. If you want bonus points, provide relevant citations for your claims.

              That’s how you make your posts corporeal rather than cloudlike. You have to put yourself out there and make your position known, and if you’re going to do that then you might as well take the time to come correct

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                You are pretty patronizing lol you came into this conversation not saying anything with expectations. I am not trying to debate lord like the rest of you guys. I generally write here the same way i talk. I am not trying to win debates. If you have any more suggestions, my suggestion box is right here 🗑

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                    I honestly dont care what you guys think of me. That might be the difference between us. Not going to tiptoe every engagement because im afraid I might not have enough value to add.

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      The do explain why you said “they don’t want them back”. When have the majority of Palestinians come from the Egyptian part of the Sinai peninsula? Since you’re obviously taking about this “back” it implies they must come from there, right? And please do explain what that message is hinting at or implying. Why would it even matter if someone “wanted them back”?

      Let me put it this way for you: Do Europeans want the Ashkenazi Jews back? Does that even matter? Can you see how out of place this sounds now?

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        Why are you guys harping on one sentence… All I meant was that Palestine has 0 friends here. They have no leverage yet they want fucking Oslo II to come back like if the last 20 years was a bad dream.

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          Because you’re clearly showing your true colours. There’s no point in having a genuine conversation with someone that talks in such a dehumanising manner.

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            My true colors is that Palestinians fucked up? Where am I being dehumanizing? I am just pointing out that Oslo II is not now nor not ever going to be a solution unless Gaza start shitting gold. Green line is a distant memory.