Me a few months back when I accidentally formatted the Windows drive I was keeping for dual booting just in case.
“Guess I’m a full timer now”
Me accidentally installing Fedora on BOTH my hard drives…
I heard you liked Linux so much, I installed Linux on ALL your harddrives
Imagine a 1tb drive partitioned into 16gb parts and a different distro on each. I have ALL the Linuxes.
Where can I learn such power?
So serious question - are you supposed to dual boot window / Linux for some reason?
When I got frustrated with Windows - I wiped my hard drive and just installed Linux mint having literally never used Linux in my life. I didn’t like mint so I tried pop_os (someone here recommended it, thanks again!) and I see zero reason to go back to Windows now.
What is the point of going back to Windows when I can run everything i ran before on Linux now?
My games work better and I’ve found so many free open source alternatives to everything - it’s been really eye opening just jumping in. I’m glad I did.
Edit - I should have clarified Windows other than work, I understand Windows is the life blood of the corporate body - good points on forrnite / valorant / destiny - I don’t play those so I didn’t know.
My Windows install does two things
Piracy/modding for consoles when there isn’t a Linux app available < I could probably use Wine
Figuring out tech support for other people when they refuse to use Linux
Maybe some sort of software that runs better on Windows when you can’t run it through a tool similar to Wine. Even for that subset of software doesn’t work after running it within a VM gets smaller too.
I thought you’re supposed to dual boot until whatever version of windows you have EOLs and then look up the price of updating windows, say “fuck that” and just not boot windows again for a while and then eventually wipe it when you need more disk space.
Am I the only one?
I dual boot purely as a way to help me separate my hobbies. Windows is where I play my games. Linux is where I stay on to my work or work on my personal projects. Separating the OS’s is basically just an organizational set up and it works for me.
Funny, it’s the opposite for me haha. Windows on work laptop. Linux on play laptop.
I used to dual boot for some work tasks and to play games. With OnlyOffice and Office365 in a browser, I can do everything I used to need desktop Window apps for. With Wine, Proton, and Proton-GE I can play all of my games in Steam or Heroic Launcher, so I don’t need Windows for games anymore.
There is still a usecase for people who need Windows for specific usecases; but for most people the only obstacle is learning curve (and don’t come at me with Mint, Ubuntu, and ElemntaryOS you’re lying to yourselves).
There was def a learning curve - but I kinda just forced myself to do it. I’m still figuring things out - but I have solved every issue I’ve run into so far - so I feel good about that.
It’s quite rewarding, IME. I’m never going back.
I’ve never been a fan of dual booting myself. The computer just ends up spending all of its time in one OS or the other. Plus Microsoft doesn’t seem to like to play nice with your bootloader.
I just started using Linux on secondary computers. Once I had gotten things down so the experience was smooth on those machines, moving the main desktop from Windows to Linux was pretty seamless.
One of the biggest things stopping me is that my partner loves to play fortnite so i play it with them a lot, is there anything to allow you to play EAC games? Iirc epic said they don’t want to account for security across every Linux distro
Basically the only road block I’ve seen is a lot of games using anti-cheat software just refuse to allow Linux. Some of it even has an option to allow it to run under proton and the devs don’t enable that option so it’s blocked. It’s basically them saying they don’t trust the Linux community not to cheat.
Then you get into the root-kit anti-cheat stuff like valorant uses which wants to load before the os and then control and monitor everything the os does and what hardware is connected… I’ve stayed away from the invasive as fuck anti-cheat games for years even before my move to Linux, so nothing lost there.
The Finals uses anti-cheat software and runs flawlessly on my machine. Such a shame these other developers won’t follow suit.
is there anything to allow you to play EAC games?
Steam has EAC available under Linux, you just install it just like it is its own game.
The developer has to specifically allow it though. Epic themselves don’t let EAC for Fortnite run on Linux because they don’t trust it as much as the rootkit version that only runs Windows.
The developer has to specifically allow it though.
True. But then that becomes a vendor problem, and not a Linux problem.
My point is that Linux went from 0% support for any game that uses EAS, to 100% support for any game that uses (and enables) EAS. There’s many more games that you can now play on Linux that you could not before.
It’s almost at the point where Wine can run more games than Windows. Most games from the Win98 to early WinXP era just run fine on Wine and don’t even show a title screen or glitch and flicker on Win10.
Heroic Launcher makes Fall Guys work fine for me and it uses EAC. It looks like Fortnite doesn’t work with Heroic’s EAC implementation; however you can play it in a browser window through Xbox Game Pass (no sub required).
If you program hardware some tools are only available on windows. Easier to just use windows in that case.
Or just use it in a virtual machine
Finally switched (again) full time to Linux early last year. With the current state of Steam proton I have finally 0 reasons to go back. If a game doesn’t work natively on Linux, I refund and move on. There’s so many games out there, I have no reason to go out of my way for any one.
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Huh, interesting, never thought to do that. Been missing Photoshop. (GIMP just isn’t the same)
I’m sorta, kinda, mostly illiterate, when it comes to what you are doing with adobe. Are you just installing like normal and then copy/paste the Adobe folder from the programs folder into a wine directory?
There’s like literally 3 games that are preventing me from dropping windows entirely.
Hogwarts via steam’s proton runs flawlessly.
On my duel booted system I still have windows. But I haven’t had to use it in a couple weeks and at this point might just delete it and go fully into Linux only. Just a few windows only apps that are making me unsure. Might try windows vm.
Honestly if I played any games that had anti cheat I would run a windows vm in QEMU/KVM. Go the GrapheneOS route and sandbox the spyware (cough Google and Microsoft cough)
Some anti cheats can detect that they’re running in a virtual machine and if they do, you’ll probably get banned for some reason.
Isn’t GrapheneOS a mobile OS? How would it work on a pc?
I think they mean that sandboxing Windows in a VM is akin to how GrapheneOS can sandbox Google apps, not that they would use Graphene on a PC.
Happy to be corrected though!
I like the idea that Linux and Windows have a duel every time your system boots and the winner gets to start up.
I have a Windows install that I haven’t booted up in 2 years. I didn’t really use it anyway. I just had one thing to finish there, but I am lazy.
I only used it for a few weeks after getting that laptop while waiting for Linux kernel 5.8 which would finally support that hardware as nothing older booted up.
Daily driving linux since i accidentally started formatting my windows drive while installing NixOS. Best mistake of my life.
Is this the new “I use nixOS BTW”? just sneak it into a nomal conversation like nothing happened? Legend.
I’d tell all the NixOS evangelists to shut up, but they’re immutable.
Oh they are bunch of flakes alright.
Once I’d tasted Linux Mint in 2019, I just gave up on Windows altogether. Linux and BSD all the way!
It is a fantastic feeling when you just finally say fuck it and run Linux only as your daily driver.
Oh god… I just switched yesterday. Borked my windows partition while at it, so linux-only it is. The pain I had yesterday… Out of the box, WiFi was busted, fan curves were busted, RGB was busted, HiDPI’s is still busted, evdi is also still busted, solved surround sound just a few minutes ago. But hey, five problems solved in a day with two left to go is still much better than windows where a single damn bug in AMD software kept me going nuts for months with no fix in sight.
It gets better too. I suppose it depends on your distro and hand ware mix as for what works out of the box.
Eg. my pure AMD Rog Zephyrus laptop worked with Fedora pretty much “out of the box” once I enabled 3rd party drivers.
It’s kinda like switching to stick shift— it’s touch weird, but once you’ve daily driven it a bit the system is second nature.
Huh, stangely, I too have zephyrus laptop, but it’s a duo one, with quite unorthodox display setup, too. The wifi indeed automagically started working after install, audio required some pactl trickery as it has two sets of speakers connected to separate audio outputs, evdi might require some actual coding, since there’s no way to run one of the screens without it, and both synaptics and manufacturer-provided drivers look pre-alpha and don’t even compile… For the rest, https://asus-linux.org/ is a godsend. For HiDPI, maybe got any tips? I have a small 4K main panel, and a couple of big FHD displays. It looks like my options are to either leave dpi unchanged and have everything too small on main panel, or set it to 2 and have everything too big on secondaries, or to use gnome, not sure which is worse… Is there like a daemon, that can dynamically change the window’s DPI value, like windows does, that I don’t know the name of?
I’m unsure. I use Gnome (for ease honestly) and Fedora with Wayland, so (iirc) dynamic display stuff is a wash and I haven’t even explored yet since I just use the clamshell.
I may not be the most helpful for you :/
HiDPI was painful to setup for me. What DE are you using and are you on Wayland?
I’m on awesomeWM, it’s on Xorg, but I’m not dead-locked on it, though, hoping to try hyprland some day when I have time to screw around.
Personally I do see how windows can be useful, but for 99% of the things I need to do on a PC I can just do on Linux. For (most) anything else, I can just use windows running on a VM in linux.
Do you know an alternative to Sony Vegas for Linux?
Davinci resolve? Its Linux support is a bit obtuse, but it works.
It felt so great when I finally wiped my Windows drive back in the day. Suddenly I had an extra drive to distro hop to my heart’s content without having to wipe the previous distro 👌
There are three things holding me back from making the switch full time, I use a stream deck from Elgato for automating a lot of tasks, I stream VR titles from Steam, and I have an Nvidia graphics card.
Thank you for giving me 3 huge reasons not to switch, cause I’ve been a bit tempted lately.
I switched to Pop_OS and it’s honestly been great even with an Nvidia card. Haven’t found a game that it won’t run, only thing I’m missing is lack of gsync/HDR support
I can’t give up my Stream Deck plugins. I don’t trust that that Linux port thing supports all the plugins I use.
Have you tried Boatswain for your Stream Deck?
This looks really fascinating. Looks like this may have some more features that I need for my Stream Deck compared to other ones for it on Linux. Might have to hope on a Live USB and check it out. Thanks for sharing!!
There are three things holding me back from making the switch full time, I use a stream deck from Elgato for automating a lot of tasks
Maybe this can help you out?
I did take a look at that once before and it didn’t quite have all the features that I use daily on my Stream Deck, but thanks for linking to it! Maybe I should take a look again since it’s been a year or so.
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I’m going to look into this myself. Been using Ubuntu for a about 6 months but also want to mess around more with VMs
I switched to Linux in 2018 because my lovely to use MacBook stopped getting updates despite being a perfectly capable machine. It really sank in for me, how much Apple relies on planned obsolescence etc. I switched to Elementary OS and was fascinated by how it worked. That was nearly 6 years ago and now I use Linux on fucking everything.
I have come across times when I’ve needed Windows but I can usually just set it up in a virtual machine temporarily. However the times when I need Windows are becoming increasingly rare, thank fuck.
It’s been absolutely phenomenal in the last 6 years to see how far the Linux and open source eco system has grown. My Steam Deck (Steam OS 3), Jellyfin server (Ubuntu) and even my Starlink (OpenWRT) Internet connection are all great examples of that. And I hope it continues.
Is not getting updates such a big deal for MacOS?
Wasn’t the end of the world but I didn’t like Apple not shipping new features etc, just because they wanted me to buy a new machine.
Windows 11 used to consume 3.5GB of RAM and Solus Budgie 4.5 consumes only 1GB…
For me Windows 11 used to consume 7GB of RAM, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma only uses 2GB
Damn 7GB is alot! Dafuq Microsoft was doing
And what exactly is wrong with that?
My MacBook Pro was 128 GB of memory is so desperate to fill it up that it gives the applications insane amounts of memory. That only took around 30 GB of memory, so the Mac also loaded the entire file system to the memory which takes around 80 GB. The whole system is super fast because it doesn’t have to read the files from a slow SSD, but from a fast memory.
It’s just a matter of how you look at it. The empty memory = wasted memory.
128 GB RAM? How much did the whole thing cost?
I think it was around 7.5k EUR. But because I bought and sold Apple shares with this in mind I’ve paid around 500 EUR for that thing.
Bro, my laptop has 8GB of memory lol, and it uses 3.5GB of it just after the startup.
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