And I say he’s the one
Who likes all our pretty songs
And he likes to sing along
And he likes to shoot his gun
But he knows not what it means
Knows not what it means
And I say yeah
Nirvana - In BloomWhat is the intentional meaning of Scott Pilgrim besides being an awkward teen brained romance plot?
Scott objectifies Ramona, and through a series of physical fights with her exes, learns that he was fighting for a person that only existed as an idealized version of a perfect relationship. He subconsciously devalues Ramona, Knives, and himself throughout the entire film and only at the end does he realize that Ramona is a real person who should be treated like a real person and not a trophy.
Most people just like it because of the stylistic graphic novel aesthetic that they NAILED.
Let’s be fair here. While that is the point of the Scott and Ramona story, the movie didn’t really put a lot of effort into portraying that. The comics went a little more deeply into that dynamic and fleshing out the relationship, it was still pretty much the background against the character personality showcasing, and over the top dramatic fights. The movie really did nail the vibe and the characters but the whole “I think I learned something” and the end of the movie really downplays the “lesson” of the whole plot. So much so that I don’t think Scott himself even fully understood the actual lesson he just learned. Just that what he was doing was wrong, and needed to change, but not why and what exactly it was he needed to change.
Great movie for sure, even better comic series, but a deep complex plot it isn’t.
Scott not really understanding what he learned or why he needed to change actually fits very well with the new anime.
And the books! The big takeaway from scott pilgrim really shouldn’t be idolizing either scott or ramona. They both need therapy.
I am not usually one to roll my eyes at literary analysis, but these themes are not well developed in the movie at all. It is absolutely meant to be a visually interesting teen romcom first, with some commentary about relationships tagging along for the ride.
Those original concepts were in the movie but it was a missed landing. If the ending had been done differently the themes would have fit well enough with the majority of the film.
I’m going to be honest, I watched it once in high school because a friend was a fan. It has been a long time since then. This is a casual viewers input with maybe a decade viewing gap lol.
I remember the cool graphics, and I remember not liking Scott very much. The drummer chick was cool, but the focus on Scott’s perspective demanded focus over her for telling the story you describe. Cera put me off some films back then, but I find I appreciate his earlier work in Arrested Development more nowadays.
No real valuable input to be had from me, but as a fan from other fandoms, I can appreciate the struggle of enjoying a setting and then having it consumed for cheap visual entertainment.
Perfect synopsis. Thank you.
I love the comic book-ness that this film has. Julie’s censor was hilarious
Her actress is so goddamn hot. I think her name is Alyson Hannigan
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No I meant the chick who was in Legion, I think you’re thinking of the hot librarian from Buffy
The movie doesn’t get into it as much, but the comic focuses a lot more on how Scott is always the good guy in his own head, but in actuality he’s kind of continually been shitty to his partners. Really recommend the comics, because while the movie did a great job of capturing the look and feel of the comic, there’s a lot of material in the comic that the movie just didn’t have time to cover.
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I’d put 500 Days of Summer in there as a third choice
The first time I watched 500 Days of Summer, I remember just staring at the screen after it was over for what seemed like an eternity. It made me reexamine a lot of past relationships and the mistakes I made assuming things about the other person or our relationship that weren’t grounded in reality.
My first time I was like fuck yeah I don’t care how good a girl is you can always go meet someone new! Screw Summer! Tom doesn’t need her!
Then eventually I realized that Tom was really the one who was unrealistic and immature. But it took a couple viewings.
Scott Pilgrim is nowhere near as influencial as Fight Club though!
Bro……you fell for it
Hmm… Maybe should be the “illusion of free choice” cow meme instead. Lol
Brad Pitt was so hot tho
I never saw either. Explain plz?
Okay, I’m very sick so this may or may not make sense. Both movies are satire.
Fight club is about emotionally damaged men in the modern day doing a fight club to fill the emptiness in their lives. Then they do a terrorism, and the twist is that the MC was mentally ill the whole time and just needed to work on themselves.
Scott Pilgrim is a teenage romance where Scott must fight seven evil exes before getting the girl. The twist is that the entire time Scott has been an immature douchebag putting a random girl on a pedastal, and devaluing himself any everyone else as a result. Peak example is his previous girlfriend, who is a high schooler he stays with just because he wants someone around. Iirc no sex/statutory rape occurs, but still.
Both require an amount of self awareness to understand that the protagonist is the problem, and a small but noticeable number of people miss the satire. I recommend both, they’re great movies.
Based and brain fog excellent explanation-pilled
Interesting.
Then stop whatever you’re doing and immediately watch both of them, back to back. Both are excellent.
Don’t have time.
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