Until the ADL gets rid of their pro-genocide leadership and spokespeople, I can’t take any of their reports seriously. Its a shame, since this particular report seems to be more concerned with anti-Trans and neo-Nazi propaganda which is indeed a real problem, and their research here would otherwise probably be very useful. They have really damaged their own reputation this past half year by equating support of Palestinian victims of genocide with antisemitism.
Poisoning the well (or attempting to poison the well) is a type of informal fallacy where adverse information about a target is preemptively presented to an audience, with the intention of discrediting or ridiculing something that the target person is about to say.
Yeah, that seems to be the M.O. of the Anti-Defamation League with regard to anti-zionism: poison the well against anyone who might feel empathy with the Palestinian people before they have a chance to speak, by equating them with antisemitism and Nazis.
Ironically, the Palestinian people are technically Semitic people also, but their wells are being literally poisoned by white Phosphorus bombs “made with [white] pride in the USA,” and dropped by different Semitic people who have the privilege to do that.
This is why white supremacy is so evil, it is so arbitrary. Who gets counted as “white” and that dividing line between enjoying privilege and being a victim of mass murder changes from day to day, and place to place. Zionism just happens to include Jews in that definition of white (while also excluding Palestinians), where as antisimitism excludes Jews, but both are white supremacy.
I am not trying to distract from that, I thought I made myself clear:
this particular report seems to be more concerned with anti-Trans and neo-Nazi propaganda which is indeed a real problem, and their research here would otherwise probably be very useful
But if Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL is defending the genocide of Palestinians, that is some pretty important context. If there happens anything in the report about pro-Palestine protests being equated with neo-Nazis, you need to take those parts with an extra few grains of salt.
To which I indicated that you were poisoning the well. If you have another reliable source that confirms or refutes the information in the article, that would be useful to the conversation.
Wild how zionists will just project all the shit their country does onto people who oppose them. The ADL is made to poison the well on antisemitism, you’re being wilfully ignorant of that bc hurting the feelings of some Israelis is a bigger tragedy to you than them murdering thousands of Palestinians.
“If you have another reliable source that confirms or refutes the information in the article, that would be useful to the conversation.” how about you get one? One that isn’t run by a state intent on labeling all opposition to genocide as antisemitic?
I can see you’re not interested in the information in the article, or my suggestion to find confirming or refuting evidence related to the article (ie being critical) and would rather take the discussion elsewhere.
Ad hominem (Latin for ‘to the person’), short for argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments which are fallacious. Typically this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself.
Until the ADL gets rid of their pro-genocide leadership and spokespeople, I can’t take any of their reports seriously. Its a shame, since this particular report seems to be more concerned with anti-Trans and neo-Nazi propaganda which is indeed a real problem, and their research here would otherwise probably be very useful. They have really damaged their own reputation this past half year by equating support of Palestinian victims of genocide with antisemitism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
Yeah, that seems to be the M.O. of the Anti-Defamation League with regard to anti-zionism: poison the well against anyone who might feel empathy with the Palestinian people before they have a chance to speak, by equating them with antisemitism and Nazis.
Ironically, the Palestinian people are technically Semitic people also, but their wells are being literally poisoned by white Phosphorus bombs “made with [white] pride in the USA,” and dropped by different Semitic people who have the privilege to do that.
This is why white supremacy is so evil, it is so arbitrary. Who gets counted as “white” and that dividing line between enjoying privilege and being a victim of mass murder changes from day to day, and place to place. Zionism just happens to include Jews in that definition of white (while also excluding Palestinians), where as antisimitism excludes Jews, but both are white supremacy.
This article, as you said, is about anti trans and neo Nazi propaganda. Why are you trying to distract from that?
I am not trying to distract from that, I thought I made myself clear:
But if Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL is defending the genocide of Palestinians, that is some pretty important context. If there happens anything in the report about pro-Palestine protests being equated with neo-Nazis, you need to take those parts with an extra few grains of salt.
To which I indicated that you were poisoning the well. If you have another reliable source that confirms or refutes the information in the article, that would be useful to the conversation.
Wild how zionists will just project all the shit their country does onto people who oppose them. The ADL is made to poison the well on antisemitism, you’re being wilfully ignorant of that bc hurting the feelings of some Israelis is a bigger tragedy to you than them murdering thousands of Palestinians.
“If you have another reliable source that confirms or refutes the information in the article, that would be useful to the conversation.” how about you get one? One that isn’t run by a state intent on labeling all opposition to genocide as antisemitic?
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I can see you’re not interested in the information in the article, or my suggestion to find confirming or refuting evidence related to the article (ie being critical) and would rather take the discussion elsewhere.
I won’t be continuing.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
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