• Akasazh@feddit.nl
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    7 months ago

    I applaud holding rich people accountable, yet I’m militantly opposed to the death sentence.

    I think there’s quite some no wage labor left in them, let them try that out for a change.

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      7 months ago

      The most difficult argument to argue against against the death penalty is that you cannot repair for the damages of executing a person you’ve wrongly convicted, if new evidence appears too late.

      This doesn’t even mean there aren’t people who deserve to die, or who deserve suffering. Rather, it’s an acknowledgement of the fallibility of human institutions.

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        7 months ago

        That’s why death penalty shouldn’t exist for crimes like a wife killing a husband. You might be 99.9% sure she poisoned him, but you cannot know for sure.

        However, a school shooter caught red handed shooting a school?

        Some crimes and scenarios can warrant the death penalty in my mind

        Next argument is “what if the government framed people to execute them?”

        Why in the world would the government point out that they are executing someone?

        If the government (the rich controlled government) wants you dead they would do it quietly.

        Even something as simple as cutting your brake lines. You really think local police are going to figure out that the government had soldier 65478 tamper with your brake lines?

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        7 months ago

        I’m overstating, but yeah I want them alive. To eat a way out. There’s plenty menial tasks they can do .

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        7 months ago

        It’s reversible at least. I’m not for unusual punishment, just got the exact conditions of a Vietnamese laborer at the bottom rung.

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          7 months ago

          So you’re okay with sending someone to a work camp if “they probably did it, more than likely”? Because at least it’s reversible…

          So what if they have to spend 10 years breaking rocks in the sun. Oopsie daisies

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            7 months ago

            You misrepresent what I said. If going guilty they are eligible to do the work many do for sustenance, not heavier or more. Just what other people do.

            Not a work camp, just living the life of many.

            There’s many proud garbagemen and cleaners, of they are any good, they might even climb the division ladder. But they are last, castwise.

            Like reincarnation, only we do it right here. Garbage men are their superiors.

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        7 months ago

        Not OP, but

        You use firearms = Militarily =/= Militantly = You go out of your way to actively advocate for something