• InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 months ago

    Since you’re writing uneducated nonsense and I’ll just bluntly assume you’re an Israel supporter. Here’s a copy-paste of my previous comments.

    Israel became an actual state in 1948 by displacing 750 000 Palestinian people and murdering many (men, women and children). Laying sieges, bombarding villages and population centers, setting fires to homes, properties and goods. Planting mines among the rubble to prevent any of the expelled people from returning (source: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by ilan Pappé).

    Now Hamas did not exist until 1987, they became an actual group only in 1987 because of all the actions Israel had done from 1948 up until 1987. Which is approximately 39-40 years after what Israel had done to the Palestinian people.

    From this we can conclude that Hamas did not start this but Israel did and that Hamas is fighting back.

    Israel is currently doing:

    • Stealing land
    • Ethnic cleansing
    • Genocide
    • Calling Palestinians rats, animals and more cruel things
    • Wanting to erase the entire Palestinian race
    • Lying to the world
    • They think they are “superior” than Palestinian people
    • They think and say that Palestinian people are, the “inferior” race
    • Apartheid
    • Sent Palestinian people jail/ prison for no reason (even kids)
    • Beat Palestinian people for no reason or provoke to “get a reason”

    Who’s the actual terrorist here?

    I condemn both Israel and Hamas but if Israel had not stolen the land and murdered people from 1948 up until now. They (Hamas) would not even exist today. Hamas has become so violent, hateful and such because the world is just watching and doing nothing while Palestinians are getting murdered and humiliated on a daily basis.

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      The earliest inhabitants in recorded history were Judaic and spoke Hebrew. Seems you’re of the mind that Israel has no right to exist. You’re describing a warzone. Maybe tell your buddies in Hamas to stop using cities as human shields, oh wait they want the highest number of civilian casualties (Martyrs™) as possible because other than taking hostages, using human shields and hiding underground is their last cowardly leverage. Even Japan surrendered and they were an actual country.

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        7 months ago

        Seems you’re of the mind that Israel has no right to exist.

        Israel has a right to exist but not in the way they exist now. They exist through murdering, humiliating, apartheid, stealing land and genocide. If back in the day they politely asked the Palestinian people there to live together in peace. That would be an acceptable reason and right to exist.

        So no, I don’t think Israel has a right to exist on the way they made the state. Because that means, Palestinians have no right anymore to their own land that was stolen.

        It is and stays Palestinian land and the Palestinians have right to it. An occupier cannot become its owner. Never.

        You’re describing a warzone. Maybe tell your buddies in Hamas to stop using cities as human shields, oh wait they want the highest June of civilian casualties as possible because other than taking hostages, human shields are is their last cowardly leverage. Even Japan surrendered and they were an actual country.

        Got any trustable source for your claims of “human shields” and “highest civilian casualties”?

        I always find it ironic how Israel supporters claim a lot but zero evidence to back it up and make things immensely personal. It seems Israel supporters cannot discuss without being emotional.

        Not only that, it is Israel who has been murdering more than 30 000 civilians and not Hamas.

        Also majority of the Israeli people don’t even want the Likud party anymore and they don’t believe in this “war”. This isn’t a war, this is a genocide. A military backed by US Vs a normal group that calls themselves Hamas.

        Only 15% of Israelis want Netanyahu to keep job after Gaza war, poll finds | Reuters

        Israel’s war on Gaza – six relentless months of death and destruction | Israel War on Gaza News | Al Jazeera

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        7 months ago

        The earliest inhabitants in recorded history were Judaic and spoke Hebrew

        And many of their children became Christian after Jesus and many became Muslim after Mohamed (s.a.s). The Palestinian people are ethnically the direct descendants of the Hebrew speaking Jews you are referring to. And before the European Jews, many of whom did not speak Hebrew by the way, invaded the land, Muslims, Christians and Jews were coexisting on the land of their ancestors. The people of Moses never left the land. Just that now their great great great great great… great cousins are forcing them out of the land, their branch of lineage has left hundreds and thousands of years ago.

        The whole ethnic argument of zionism is a lie, that is as absurd as US Americans claiming rights to indigenous lands, because they have some 1/1024th native ethnics.