I’ll just remind that not every yacht costs millions, there are those that cost less than a 2016 Harley Davidson. Don’t know what kind of yacht was sunk this time, but I guess it wasn’t a big one
Also, orcas are pissed off because of fishermen, plus fishermen now play loud music to piss them even more ward them off. I’m totally on the orcas side, but would prefer if those loud fisherboats were damaged instead
Yeah, they are damaging mostly sailboats, not those millionaire party yachts you imagine. Boats from families and people who just want to sail and chill on the ocean, literally the least environmental damaging boats there are.
So I have a 35ft sailboat (or yacht) that I paid less than 10k euros for, and I sail it with my family on the weekends near places where orcas sometimes roam, tell me how I am a millionaire again? Or how its “justice” if they someday sink my boat? Because these are the ones they are attacking.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m all against those sea monstrosities from the ultra rich, but cheering for the orcas is not the way. Someday they will get someone killed, and they will probably be hunted down until they stop being a threat.
The people to attack in this mess are the fishing boats and the other yachts that are actually impacting the habits and habitats of the whales, the very last thing we want to do here is gnash and hate on each other.
Unless you hate the whales and everything they represent, in which case the door is over there. Our silly boaty time fun is recreation, our recreation is not more important than other sapient life on this fucking planet.
we simply have to acheive communications with the orcas and explain to them that though they can attack and disable your small vessel, they should instead attack the larger vessels that are doing harm to them.
to which, they’ll reply, eeeeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOwwwwwwwEEEEEwwwwwwwwwooooooooOOOoOOOOoo
Yeah but they ain’t exactly wrong. If I had a sailboat I’d avoid the areas orca’s were attacking actively and uh, reconsider things.
My dude/ette, marine mammals that are really intelligent are organizing and orchestrating attacks on human built vessels, this is “WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL” intensity shit.
I think the ocean is cooking and we’re seeing all the wildlife go bonkers.
I just stumbled upon the article, and apparently it was this one. From a quick glance at the listing, I’d say this particular one is a ~$400k-$700k boat.
Yea it’s pretty dumb how many people assume that, when all the videos I’ve seen are of typical-sized sailboats with fiberglass hulls. If people stopped to think for a second, they’d realize it’d be a lot harder to sink steel-hulled large luxury motor yachts / super yachts like billionaires & mega millionaires have
I had no idea about the yacht price. Do you have an example listing? Because if it’s something as small and as cheap as you say then I have a hard time classifying a little boat with a motor as a yacht.
Wikipedia indicates that while not a standard definition, a yacht is generally classified as me having an overnight sleeping cabin and is at least 10 meters/33 feet long. I can’t imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it’s not a multi million dollar vessel.
Going from this random 2016 Harley for ~$18k, there are a lot of good boats that are cheaper and would qualify as a yacht per your definition (sleeping cabin, 33+ feet)
Of course, Craigslist has some options. This one is slightly more expensive than the Harley but it looks in very good condition with a lot of recent upgrades.
Overall, there are ~3 price ranges for used sailboats: Under $10k, you’ll have small-ish boats (under 27 ft) in pretty good condition or medium-ish boats (25-35 ft) that need a little work. Around $50k you’ll get older (1980’s), medium-large boats (35-45ft) in good condition, or smaller ones in very good condition. And at $100k-$200k you’ll get much newer medium-large boats (2005+).
To add to the excellent answer by @ebc@lemmy.ca, sailboats don’t require a motor, you may as well maneuver tight spots with a paddle and use sails on (relatively) open water
I can’t imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it’s not a multi million dollar vessel.
To add to some of the excellent answers: There is a whole category of folks who do van life, but it’s sailboat life. They live on the boat full time and go extremely low-budget – few of them are wealthy at all. People get hung up on “yacht” and all the baggage that word brings. Many purchased a boat in lieu of a van or a house. So even if you spent $100k it’s a cheaper life than on land in most cases.
Examples of low budget sailors you can check out:
Sam Holmes - I don’t know what he paid for his current boat but he’s super frugal. I’d be shocked if he paid more than $15k and it was probably a LOT less, knowing him. While back in the US he was sailing a boat (Bayfield 29) he got for free.
Sailing Uma - While this couple are now doing much better financially (thanks to their Youtube content) they originally paid $3k for their boat, put as I recall about another $3-5k into it and have been sailing ever since, including across the Atlantic and up to Svalbard, Norway, Iceland, etc.
Wind Hippie Sailing - Holly, who is pretty damned poor, sails a Grinde 27 which was a real fixer upper when she bought it. Not sure of the price but probably under $20k.
There are of course a ton of sailers out there who are not visible. I know of a couple of people who got their boat for free and have sailed at least from the US West coast to Hawaii or around the Carribean living on practically nothing.
Sailboats like this are routinely called “yacht”. Yacht is a very non descriptive term for boats that just means a pleasure boat. A lot of very different boats fit that description.
I’ll just remind that not every yacht costs millions, there are those that cost less than a 2016 Harley Davidson. Don’t know what kind of yacht was sunk this time, but I guess it wasn’t a big one
Also, orcas are pissed off because of fishermen, plus fishermen now play loud music to
piss them even moreward them off. I’m totally on the orcas side, but would prefer if those loud fisherboats were damaged insteadYeah, they are damaging mostly sailboats, not those millionaire party yachts you imagine. Boats from families and people who just want to sail and chill on the ocean, literally the least environmental damaging boats there are.
Oh won’t someone think of the family that’s not billionaire rich just millionaire rich.
So I have a 35ft sailboat (or yacht) that I paid less than 10k euros for, and I sail it with my family on the weekends near places where orcas sometimes roam, tell me how I am a millionaire again? Or how its “justice” if they someday sink my boat? Because these are the ones they are attacking. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all against those sea monstrosities from the ultra rich, but cheering for the orcas is not the way. Someday they will get someone killed, and they will probably be hunted down until they stop being a threat.
The people to attack in this mess are the fishing boats and the other yachts that are actually impacting the habits and habitats of the whales, the very last thing we want to do here is gnash and hate on each other.
Unless you hate the whales and everything they represent, in which case the door is over there. Our silly boaty time fun is recreation, our recreation is not more important than other sapient life on this fucking planet.
we simply have to acheive communications with the orcas and explain to them that though they can attack and disable your small vessel, they should instead attack the larger vessels that are doing harm to them.
to which, they’ll reply, eeeeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOwwwwwwwEEEEEwwwwwwwwwooooooooOOOoOOOOoo
which is orca for, “Bitch, I can’t eat metal.”
I kid, but you know, it’s real.
Bro, you’re in their habitat… don’t want to get sunk then don’t go there.
Great job completely avoiding everything they said!
Yeah but they ain’t exactly wrong. If I had a sailboat I’d avoid the areas orca’s were attacking actively and uh, reconsider things.
My dude/ette, marine mammals that are really intelligent are organizing and orchestrating attacks on human built vessels, this is “WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL” intensity shit.
I think the ocean is cooking and we’re seeing all the wildlife go bonkers.
It’s more of a “thousandaire” thing honestly
I just stumbled upon the article, and apparently it was this one. From a quick glance at the listing, I’d say this particular one is a ~$400k-$700k boat.
EDIT: I was wrong, it’s more like $200k-$300k
Thanks, that’s more expensive than I thought :)
People who were on the yacht at the time may have gotten it for around €3300, as it was available to rent
Edit: lol, I’ve linked the same article you mentioned, because I didn’t check the other link
Yea it’s pretty dumb how many people assume that, when all the videos I’ve seen are of typical-sized sailboats with fiberglass hulls. If people stopped to think for a second, they’d realize it’d be a lot harder to sink steel-hulled large luxury motor yachts / super yachts like billionaires & mega millionaires have
Which should have us scared for the next generation of weapons the orcas develop to handle the megayachts
If I ever find myself turned into an orca and someone’s sailing close to me blasting off loud music, they’re getting wet.
I had no idea about the yacht price. Do you have an example listing? Because if it’s something as small and as cheap as you say then I have a hard time classifying a little boat with a motor as a yacht.
Wikipedia indicates that while not a standard definition, a yacht is generally classified as me having an overnight sleeping cabin and is at least 10 meters/33 feet long. I can’t imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it’s not a multi million dollar vessel.
Going from this random 2016 Harley for ~$18k, there are a lot of good boats that are cheaper and would qualify as a yacht per your definition (sleeping cabin, 33+ feet)
Overall, there are ~3 price ranges for used sailboats: Under $10k, you’ll have small-ish boats (under 27 ft) in pretty good condition or medium-ish boats (25-35 ft) that need a little work. Around $50k you’ll get older (1980’s), medium-large boats (35-45ft) in good condition, or smaller ones in very good condition. And at $100k-$200k you’ll get much newer medium-large boats (2005+).
For reference, my first sailboat cost me $2k.
To add to the excellent answer by @ebc@lemmy.ca, sailboats don’t require a motor, you may as well maneuver tight spots with a paddle and use sails on (relatively) open water
To add to some of the excellent answers: There is a whole category of folks who do van life, but it’s sailboat life. They live on the boat full time and go extremely low-budget – few of them are wealthy at all. People get hung up on “yacht” and all the baggage that word brings. Many purchased a boat in lieu of a van or a house. So even if you spent $100k it’s a cheaper life than on land in most cases.
Examples of low budget sailors you can check out:
Sam Holmes - I don’t know what he paid for his current boat but he’s super frugal. I’d be shocked if he paid more than $15k and it was probably a LOT less, knowing him. While back in the US he was sailing a boat (Bayfield 29) he got for free.
Sailing Uma - While this couple are now doing much better financially (thanks to their Youtube content) they originally paid $3k for their boat, put as I recall about another $3-5k into it and have been sailing ever since, including across the Atlantic and up to Svalbard, Norway, Iceland, etc.
Wind Hippie Sailing - Holly, who is pretty damned poor, sails a Grinde 27 which was a real fixer upper when she bought it. Not sure of the price but probably under $20k.
There are of course a ton of sailers out there who are not visible. I know of a couple of people who got their boat for free and have sailed at least from the US West coast to Hawaii or around the Carribean living on practically nothing.
Find me a yacht that costs less than a Harley… I’ll wait
I said Yacht, not a sail boat.
Sailboats like this are routinely called “yacht”. Yacht is a very non descriptive term for boats that just means a pleasure boat. A lot of very different boats fit that description.
Yacht is a boat, sail or power, that has a cabin for sleeping. Large size is not a prerequisite. Some boats as small as 17 ft meet this definition.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/yacht
Take the L.
Define yacht then
Edit: oh, it seems, the American English strikes again
As per UK definition I’m accustomed to, a yacht is:
While the US definition is:
Although this, too, doesn’t rule out a yacht not necessarily being expensive, and don’t really say what’s large in actual size