(No, just keep on. These kinds of regulations were long overdue)
EU has its many flaws but they pretty much doing their job in regards of consumer rights, human rights and protection of personal data.
If we could only fix that veto issue… And the parliament issue… Someday hopefully :')
If Article 17 (Upload filters) didn’t make it through I cannot see chat control making it (even tho I think we shouldn’t even let it get so far)
The worst part about chat control is that they proposed it without having a single clue as to how this would be set up, let alone managed and controlled.
Them not being able to give clear answers to absolutley valid and fair questions just breaks more trust in their competence.
Anyway, next I’d like them to ban anything that can be considered factory new e-waste, like cheap usb fans that break after a month, or keychain speakers that don’t even sound good. There’s so many things in production that just don’t have any business existing.
Yeah, it was the same way with upload filters… Me and the boys were protesting, experts were saying it wouldn’t work yet the EU politicians kept being stubborn…
Yeah, I think they should ESPECIALLY ban these non refillable vape sticks… I mean, the batteries are practically unused yet it’s more or less useless after being emptied. And there’s always the refillable option. (No vapes would be best, get off that sh***)
Hope for same work direction in the future!
The battery thing is for the environment
The European Convention of Human Rights, the Council of Europe and its court looks after human rights, not the EU.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Convention_on_Human_Rights
You are right. My intention was to refer the whole of Europe as EU (which I know its incorrect) rather than go into specifics but regardless thanks for the clarification.
Question, do these bodies have teeth? And if so would these teeth exist without the EU?
My understanding of the EU is that the only thing they can really do to coerce uncooperative members is threaten to revoke membership.
So, if these bodies are not EU, and it wants to impose a sanction against a member nation, by what mechanism can it enforce that?
Just wondering.
Yes, the ECHR does have teeth. The UK is still subject to its rulings despite brexit
UK is still a member of The Council of Europe, which is different to the European Council…
What is the ECHR? It is an international court, set up in 1959, to rule on individual or state applications alleging violations of the civil and political rights set out in the European convention on human rights. Its judgments are binding on the 46 Council of Europe member states that have ratified the convention.
The EU cannot threaten revoking membership of the EU, there is no mechanism to expel a member state. There is only article 50 for the state leaving of its own accord, or suspension of rights
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_7_of_the_Treaty_on_European_Union
DO MANDATORY 3.5mm JACK NOW
THE PERSON THAT DOWNVOTED THIS DESERVES THEIR AIRPODS TO RUN OUT OF BATTERY DURING A 12 HOUR FLIGHT SITTING NEXT TO A CHILD AND THEIR CHATTY NO-VAX-MAKING-MY-OWN-BREAD-LOOK-AT-THE-PICTURES-OF-MY-C-SECTION-DELIVERY MOTHER
That’s why you carry two sets of Airpods on a 12 hour flight. /s
Need more of this energy in my life
When you land in your 30’s the warm feeling that makes you crave for a better world becomes a seething anger towards those who make this world harder to realize.
And you either take it out on strangers on the internet or become Ted KaczynskiBased. Also your writing style is great. Reminds me of those old “THIS IS A MOTHER FUCKING WASP” memes
Ahah thanks, but I am not based.
I’m just sour and acid, pH3 as in my name
Jeeez
It takes 5 minutes at most to get another hour of playback from my headset. You do not need a headphone jack in this day an age, and I say this as an avid music listener. Also ANC won’t work if your battery is dead most of the time, so having a wired option is not that useful for your flight
IT TAKES 0 SECONDS TO HAVE ∞ HOURS OF PLAYBACK FOR MY HEADSET.
Talking seriously, I really hate that everything in this day and age has to come with a battery: it’s a useless waste of resources.
When you buy a good set of cabled earphones it will be good for life (I used my AudioTechnica M50 for more than 10 years and only had to change the cable once), wireless you’ll have to throw them away when the batteries will eventually die (in 3 years on average).
E-waste is a serious issue, if you want to go green, go cable <3Okay so I go running quite often, no phone on me, just my watch (which is on my wrist) and my AirPods.
How does your setup work in my regard? Because I genuinely don’t see a way to go cabled for it without changing how I do things, and having a cable running to my watch is just stupid.
(I do use wired headphones whenever I’m at home because we all know it’s better at a fundamental level) but let’s be honest AirPods have their place.
Dude…
- Never said that bluetooth buds/earphones should be dismantled, please abandon this “if you have an argument for your thing it means you’re against my thing” mindset, it makes you sound dumb and you are not;
- Back in the 90’s joggers would run with huge-ass cassette walkmans powered by 4x AA batteries strapped on their shorts and hardly anyone popped an hernia or got strangled by the earphones: while we had great achievements in terms of electronics wearability, don’t let comfort be your cage.
Yeah I realize my comment came off as argumentative and isn’t really how I meant it, I more so meant I can’t see a way for me to use a wired set without changing how comfortable my run currently is. (Again, I do PREFER wired for home use etc, but on the go I just can’t use anything but my AirPods for comfort). I think it’s also an ease of use thing for me too, as I LOVE that I can go for that run, come home, take a shower WITH THEM, to rinse off, then sit down with my steam deck and they are already connected without me doing a thing. I think I’m just spoiled by the ease of use the more I type about this honestly.
If you find yourself having a good run with them, have at it, don’t let anyone yuck your yum.
I just want to be given the possibility of making the choice I think it’s best for my use cases
I’d get a DAP in that case. But yeah that’s the only annoying thing about wired.
Because air pod is not my only headset
But you can have a DAC to plug them in then, which probably will sound better than your phone’s
Yes. Also I need a SCSI connector. Do that obsolete piece of shit as well.
FULL FLEDGED 40-GPIO-PIN LIKE A RASPBERRY PI
Fuck that. Do 16-lane PCIe gen 5 instead
OPEN MOTHERBOARD SO I CAN SOLDER RANDOM SHIT
+a beefed up amplifier otherwise little point.
The number of times and situation I’ve wished I had wired earbuds. And this is someone who generally uses wireless headphones. The fact that they removed it in the first place is bs
User expandable/replaceable storage, please.
There’s no reason whatsoever that a 2TB iPad should cost £1250 more than a 128GB one. I put an extra 2TB in my PS5 the other week for under £100.
I have a 512gb micro SD card in my phone… you just need to avoid the premium phones then you have options
Fairphone still puts SD-Card slots in their phones, i doubled my storage for 40€
With phones and tablets I can understand, honestly. Soldered-in insanely fast storage space is quite expensive. Only recently a 2TB NVMe drive (much slower than what’s in an iPad) came down to reasonable prices. 1k+ is still a hella overcharge, but for the type memory it is, I can understand it being more than a standard NVMe.
Expanded storage slots would be great, too… but slow as shit I’d it’s SD. Are iPads waterproof? If not, then that’s not an issue, but if they are, I could see that being a problem as well.
Expandable storage does not compromise waterresistance. If a phone with a Sim card slot can be IP68 rated, then a phone with a combo sim/SD card slot can as well.
Nice, noted! Then that’s not an issue. My only issue then would be the speed of the storage. Not a big issue on my iPad as I don’t use it for much, but running stuff and even going through pictures on my phone would be a nightmare (…which is my fault for having 15k pictures on it and not clearing it out i. Years…)
If you have problems with going through pictures, it’s not the storage speed problem, that’s for sure. Even the slowest sd card is fast enough to load a picture in human speeds
Also, why can professional cameras have expendable storage? Recording videos and burst mode for example needs fast storage.
I can’t find any evidence that the inbuilt iPad Pro SSD is faster than modern NVMe SSDs. It’s somewhere between 1 and 3 GB/s depending on the model. The Crucial P5 I got ran quite happily in the PS5 at about 5GB/s.
It’s all very much a muchness for the kind of loads that iPads will typically be handling anyway. I doubt there’s anything that can process data fast enough to make the SSD the bottleneck.
I’m not knowledgeable enough to explain, but it something about the bus between the CPU and the SSD that makes it so ridiculous.
Super good point on the “iPad isn’t gonna be doing much/anything that NEEDS that speed” though. Most people aren’t editing 4k video or whatever on it.
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I’m still bitter that Samsung delayed the release of their PCIe 4.0 SSDs because Sony was buying up all their NAND stock, only for them to be sold to scalpers.
At least the EU protects consumers’ rights, which is a breath of fresh air and it is something to be appreciated. Not going to lie.
Especially in contrast to the US who completely stopped pretending to support consumers.
Let’s hope it stays that way, now that Fiona Scott Morton was appointed “Chief Economist of EU’s Directorate-General for Competition”.
Are they objectively doing this to help consumers though, or is there another reason and it just so happens to benefit consumers.
Reminder: Steve Jobs was a non-engineer, non-designer Marketing guy who was famously against charity and refused to pay child support despite being mega rich.
He didn’t create the I-anything. He took what talented people did and made himself the face of it. He was a bad dude, a model capitalist, and the world is better for his preventable, self-inflicted early demise. Thanks for being into alternative “medicine” at least, Steve.
Elon Musk is a wannabe Steve Jobs, it all makes sense.
He went to Switzerland to try the proton therapy to cure cancer. When you know how expensive it’s, he could help a lot of people.
He went to Switzerland to try the proton therapy to cure cancer. When you know how expensive it’s, he could help a lot of people.
You sound like if Steve Jobs fucked your mom and never called her back X’D
If I slap you there’s a non-zero chance Steve Job’s cock falls out of your mouth.
I’m actually not an admirer of mr. Jobs either, should have clarified that.
I just found amusing such amount of anger, like something personal is involvedNo, I just don’t like when the do nothing capitalists, living or dead, take credit for the work and technical achievements of people that actually provide something of worth to humanity. People should think of rooms of engineers toiling and exhausted factory workers when they think about how their iphone was made, not Donald Trump in a turtleneck and jeans blustering about the magic phone he made.
I mean, it’s pretty damn low though.
Look, I’m happy about the EU regulating these things and think it’s great for the overall ecosystem. But can we please stop with the “Apple users are braindead” circlejerk? It’s so fucking cringe, and it unironically reminds me of the unebearable zeal that Apple cultists used to (and probably still do but I see it less) impose on anyone who made the mistake of getting to close to them.
I’ve had many Android phones over the years, and one iPhone 8. While I am considering moving to a de-Googled Android for privacy reasons, I have to say, my iPhone has held up better than any of my Android phones (Galaxy S3, S4, LG G3) did, without needing to replace the battery. Just because you can’t understand why someone might want one doesn’t mean everyone who gets an iPhone is an idiot.
I would much rather have left this kind of tech chest-beating over at reddit.
Those who are still on the ‘apple bad’ train like to forget they are running an OS built by an ads company.
Every phone manufacturer has some bad shit, I choose to stick with apple cuz I already have a big library of paid stuff.
I’ve been flashing custom firmware on my phone since before Android was a thing, I’ll have you know my OS is built by dodgy Russian hackers installed on a dodgy Chinese phone, thank you very much.
Firstly running Android != running Google on it.
Secondly you prove exactly the point. They try to make you dependent on their proprietary technology, forcing you to use their app store, apps, chargers, repair shops, desktop OS, TVs etc. (you can circumvent each of these point, but it requires always some amount of technical time investment).
At least they with android can change and look at everything since its open source. Root and toot. Ios will fall due to its lock ins just like Microsoft once did. Same same but different.
Hi, I’m sorry that this makes you feel uncomfortable. It wasn’t my aim to make people feel that way. Even if I was making fun of Apple devices and users it doesn’t reflect the whole spectrum of my feelings. I do think that Apple has made some technological milestones and that their products are a strong alternative comparing them to the other ones (Windows Phone *cough cough)
Even if Apple isn’t my favourite brand I still believe that competition drives progress which is why I’m actually glad Apple is such a big competition and vice versa. And it is because of users like you.
I don’t really want to denounce Apple users for their phone choice. As I see it we’ve all chosen our phone by our past influences and experiences, and those naturally differ so there’s no objective right and wrong here. Ultimately, you choose what suits you best!
And to be really fair, the only phones I’ve seen so far that would tick off all the boxes are old Android phones and the Fairphones.
Ah nah, it’s OK I wasn’t talking to you specifically. The meme is fine by itself – it just attracts certain types that do like to say the kind of things I was referring to. Perhaps I should have replied to one of the other comments I saw that said this instead.
Anyways, don’t let it get to you. It’s your decision anyways. In that regard, have a nice day :D
Yeah but I want to see change, I don’t want such a stupid greedy company win a single customer. Customers are mostly not knowing anything what they are doing and just do such a stupid decision because Apple markets Iphones with 99% satisfaction of user reports which is 100% fake and just marketing… like privacy, its just marketing. There is no privacy.
If privacy is your concern the better option could be e.g. some google free android variant. There are several other OSes that are specialised in this regard and I think it’s not a pro argument for apple.
I don’t really mind the non-replacable batteries tbh. Water resistance is much harder when you need to design your phone with a removable battery.
I do want the SD card slots back though. I don’t care about having two Sim cards, I want my enormous local storage that I can transfer in 8-10 seconds back
Fuck Apple
No we can’t.
Replaceable batteries are so early millenia.
“We CaNnOt mAkE tHeM wAtErProOf.”
Galaxy S5 starts laughing
Waterproof devices are excluded from having to have replaceable batteries. Just FYI
Also, newer android phones don’t have replaceable batteries either. So why always bitch about just Apple?
Only devices which are made for “underwater use as their main purpose”. Smartphones do not qualify.
Ahh, yes, true, under a new, upcoming regulation. Should read more news. ;-) thanks for painting that out!
Wow, a sincere, thankful reply. This place is indeed a lot better than reddit, isn’t it? I’ll have to get used to this type of internet
I already said this in another comment but Samsung STILL makes them! https://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobile/phones/galaxy-xcover-pro/
Yea it’s technically made for bussiness to give to their employees but you can still buy it for personal use. Specs ain’t great tho, but the point is that it is possible.
My work gave me one of these. Worst phone I’ve ever used.
Yea its like how schools pay millions of dollars for computers only for them to be laggy af. Some organizations just don’t care as long as it’s usable to do whatever the organization needs it to do. It’s usually cheaper for an organization to buy 500 of these since they are probably cheaper in bulk, and its easier to manage. An organization could probably get a bulk purchase deal on flagships, but its gonna be more expensive, and they dont wanna spend even slightly more than they had to, they just want cheap stuff that works, even very slowly. If a manufacturer wanted to, they could spend production money to making these flagship, but why do that when you can seal batteries and make their devices die quicker and sell more phones?
Not just the Galaxy S5, go open GSMArena’s phone finder and filter the results by form factor to “bar”, IP certificate to IPx7 and IPx8, and finally the battery to removable, 97 phones if you gonna include non-Android phones
And also one little thing, can you all please stop using the wrong word, it is water resistance not waterproof
Nokia 5210 wants to have a word with you.
That phone would literally survive fat man & little boy combined!
And not replaceable with tools. You could do it in about two seconds.
Are you implying that humans aren’t tools?
Some are
You mean fools?
There were a lot of good things back then. I don’t mind that part coming back
Samsung STILL makes them! https://www.samsung.com/us/business/mobile/phones/galaxy-xcover-pro/
I wish I lived in Europe.
Can’t you just purchase the EU version or is it locked for non EU sim cards?
Some changes might also affect non EU countries anyways, at least there is no logical reason to keep especially the hardware changes region locked… On the other hand, it’s Apple
Same
Now hit em again with a FaceTime on other platforms and finish off with an iMessage on Android!
I would looooove iMessage to be an option on my PC computers and my friends’ Android phones. Signal is great, but iMessage is so super clean. I love that I can have E2E encrypted chats from my laptop to my friends’ phones.
People complain about BuBbLe CoLouRs without even knowing what it means… iMessage is legitimately amazing. 100% get it to other platforms, Apple!
based EU
“Your honor, the apple vision pro was specifically designed to be used inside a small sailing ship.”
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Unfortunately “USB-C” means nothing. It just describes what type of connector to use.
I mean its gpod enough,no? Tp be able to force apple to not use proprietary charging. And i assume data will also be a thing on their products, whether or not it uses the full speed capabilities of usb c dpesnt seem to matter.
Last I read was that apple was going to throttle their usb-c ports being used with non-apple blessed cables. And those cables are supposed to be pretty spendy, as they’re going to be “apple taxed”, <cough> I mean certified as apple is calling it. I hope the EU puts the smack down on them for trying to create such a loophole in interoperability requirements.
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Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen. It’s pretty much the definition of unfair competition, I mean Apple makes cables and artificially hampers competitors cables unless they pay some money?
Maybe the fines are too low so far if they test us like that.
That reeks of anti-trust, so much so I think the US would even jump in on that action.
“USB-C” really only means “that flat oval shaped connector” and absolutely nothing more. The plug and cable and connected devices define what USB standard is used. You can deliver anything from “charging only USB 2.0 low power” to USB 4 with 240 W charging and 80Gbps data transfer including 8K@60 DisplayPort tunneling via USB-C.
Still better than: “Can you borrow me your charging cable? Oh, you got USB-C. Well shit!”
What annoys me is when people say “Do you have an iPhone charger?” when really they mean a cable.
Almost as bad as people calling USB-B a “printer cable”.
I use USB-B all the time (fightsticks) and still call them printer cables lmao
Yes, USB-C only describes the physical connector, but unless Apple somehow insists on giving users a more shitty experience when using USB-C they are kind of forced to support a reasonable standard for data transfer and charging. We probably won’t get 240W charging or anything close, but we also won’t see a degradation compared to lightning.
You just said it means nothing, then explained what it means. Why is it unfortunate that apple will need to put UBC C on the single device that still doesn’t have it FROM THEIR OWN LINEUP.
It’s also a proprietary standard that needs to be licensed. They’ve basically handed the USB organization a complete monopoly over smartphones. I know there is no suitable open source option that can replace USB but it’s still far from ideal. Maybe for the next step in furtherance of hardware freedom we should also be funding the development of a proper open source alternative, or campaign for USB to be open sourced.
Sideloading, too.
For a second I was thinking about chromebooks because you can’t install native packages and only install apps from Play Store. Till I remember that you can enable app-dev mode to install any .apk (sideload). But does it count? I need to enable dev-app mode which can’t be reverted. Additionally it annoys you on the lock screen with a red text that this chromebook has unverified packages. You can always enable it without any further downsides.
But at least you can install natively Linux on any Chromebook like a normal x86 Laptop or ARM64 Device.
No, the EU wants sideloading on iOS starting from 2024 iirc.
For all IPhones or only new ones?
For all the iphones getting updated in 2024 although they mentioned with iOS 17. In EU. Dunno if Apple will extend the thing outside Europe.
I mean I think apple is just gonna increase prices in the EU and blame regulators.
Yeah likely, not as if they needed to stay competitive with such a loyal fanbase
