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    6 months ago

    more like when we still believe a burgeois state will put good politicians in power.

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            6 months ago

            I’ll give you that. I meant change in a positive light, but that’s hardly ever the case these days.

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                6 months ago

                Maybe we view ‘positive’ in different ways lmao. I wouldn’t necessarily consider riots and violent uprising (what happens when the bread runs out and the circus is empty) positive. Their outcomes though? Those can be.

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          Perhaps instead of mocking America, you guys should’ve spent more time making sure politicians like American conservatives didn’t get elected

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              Even if that’s all true, we owe it to our forebears to still try. And I don’t mean literal ancestors, but the American left throughout history. They fought against slavery, for equal civil rights, for the right to vote, and for the dignity to be seen as a full person. Workers rights advocates fought to give us safer working conditions and better work life balance. And all of these people were beaten and some even killed in the process.

              Things don’t look great right now, but I don’t know if things have ever looked good in the US. It’s always been pretty terrible in some regard if you weren’t a rich white straight man.

              Maybe the struggle will be futile in the end. But I don’t want to give up, because the people before us didn’t give up, and honestly faced harder odds.

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                They dont fight any more. They’ve been conditioned to think that violence is barbaric and we just need to meet Nazis in the “marketplace” and “win them over with better ideas”.

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        6 months ago

        agreed. its nice here.

        but also some variety can’t hurt either.