• chakan2@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The problem is 60-70% of Palestine supports Hamas. This isn’t a fringe group waving flags around.

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      5 months ago

      I’d like to see where you got that figure from. Regardless, this Lemmy, not Palestine. We’re talking about what people “usually” believe on Lemmy.

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        5 months ago

        It’s not pretty… https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/poll-shows-palestinians-back-oct-7-attack-israel-support-hamas-rises-2023-12-14/

        People on Lemmy seem to think Hamas just wants to bring unicorns and rainbows to the region. When in reality, they’d stone most of the users here for their views.

        It’s all weird. I don’t know what kind of social engineering they did to make it OK to kill 1000 civilians, but their campaign was wildly successful.

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          I can’t help but notice they didn’t actually link to the survey, which doesn’t let me know exactly what was asked, what the sample size was, where the samples were taken from, etc.

          Regardless… this is not Palestine. It is Lemmy. The vast majority of people on Lemmy are very unlikely to be Palestinian considering their percentage of the global population.

          You claimed, in a discussion about comments on Lemmy that usually, the people against this genocide support Hamas.

          Which, again, I think is both offensive and wrong.

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            5 months ago

            My point is Palestine as a whole or even partially support Hamas. Go Google it…you’ll see from 30-90 percent support.

            Only a couple of Hamas flags flying would surprise me.

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              5 months ago

              My apologies, I got my conversation with you mixed up with a conversation with someone else.

              But I will say support within Palestine should not reflect support in New York City. The situations are entirely different. Jewish Voices for Peace is a huge element in protests there and I doubt they’re big fans of Hamas.

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      5 months ago

      How many Israelis support idf or Israel? Hamas and Hezbollah flags are the equivalent to Israeli flags since they are terrorists organizations and governments. Usa supports only one of the terrorists though…I would argue Hamas are rebel fighters. Rebels use terrorism against regimes and occupying forces that kill locals in this case genocide and colonize Palestinians.

      Idk hezbollahs deal not informed enough

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        5 months ago

        Do freedom fighters also intentionally hold up in schools, hospitals, and crowded places so they can use civilians as human shields? Do freedom fighters steal free aid meant for the people and force them to buy it back from them or starve? Do freedom fighters typically have their leader living the high life in another country while the people they’re supposedly fighting for suffer?