As the president begins his last international trip before the election, the fear in the crowd is that conflict in Gaza is tripping him up.

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    5 months ago

    I think what we’ll see is Biden’s support for Israel not so much making people more likely to vote for Trump as making them more likely to not vote at all.

    (Which, in a 2-party system where one side ALWAYS falls in line behind their candidate, makes that side much more likely to win.)

    And for the people who will choose to NOT vote for Biden over Israel, I think they’re likely more concerned with what Biden is doing rather than what Trump might do.

    Though, as you say, it will definitely be worse not just for Palestine but for Ukraine and the world at large.

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      5 months ago

      Sorry to repeat this comment, but it really applies here too since I don’t disagree with either of you:

      Then it behooves all of us who want to stop Trump to give them other reasons to vote for Biden. We need to let them know that Trump is not going to be any less supportive of genocide and it’s either Trump or Biden. Voting third party or abstaining won’t change that.

      It helps if you try to convince people to vote on down ballot races too. Too many people think president is the most important thing to vote for when local and regional elections can matter far more on a personal level.

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        5 months ago

        SCOTUS nominations are probably the only thing gonna make me actually vote for Biden. He’s done some stuff that was good, sure, but no where near what I would have liked to see him accomplish, and his approach to the ongoing genocide is inexcusable, but I can’t let that mean I help Trump decide the court layouts for the rest of my life by staying home.

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          5 months ago

          Right, this election, and the last, where more about who the president surrounds themselves with. Who they appoint to key positions. Not the individual.

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      5 months ago

      Anyone who doesn’t vote - especially to stop trump - is more than a cretinous idiot, they’re actively working to destroy the world.

      Articles like this do not help, and posting them does not help. Teh BiDeN GeNoSiDe crowd are actively doing what russian trolls want.

      If someone has the one-and-only issue of stopping Israel from the genocide they’re obviously committing, they’re going to have to do something else. Bitching about Biden on the interwebs is the very least effort possible. (And kudos to them on having such a myopic worldview that they only give a shit about one thing. The rest of us are trying to avoid the destruction of much more than that and would superappreciate it if they could shut the fuck up for about sixteen more weeks or so.) If we make it out of this election alive or with a majority, then it’s all systems go for bitchapalooza. Until then, fight trump or gtfo.