… as explained here.
Basically Microsoft presents this “incredible” product, and then says in the same breath: “Oops, not for your current setup. Maybe you should consider buying a new PC?”
Really!? 😠
If only Linux were ready for mainstream use…
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I bought Microsoft Office Home & Student 2021 … a one-time non-subscription purchase. Today I found this:
I was able to figure out how to “re-activate” without signing up to 365. But damn sure seems like a dark pattern to me
i saw that on a new install of the ‘non-sub’ office last month. stupid af, just another way of scamming for subscriptions.
Was this screenshot taken with Recall? 😂…😭
This is peak humor idk why anyone’s downvoting this 😂
I’m kinda tired of hearing bs like “if only linux was good enough”.
It is. You just have to install and use it.
We’re close. We just need a couple of vendors to step up and take some responsibility.
Steam already picked up all the hard stuff.
Adobe products, Outlook, and of all fucking things Roblox.
I probably also really wouldn’t hurt if somebody could manage to make Nvidia background removal working OBS Linux.
Yeah the Roblox thing is hard to swallow, it used to work better on Linux than on any other platform for me. Everything else there’s alternatives - my local PC shop sells machines at a significant discount “without windows installed”, maybe if more did that the market would take care of things and the software vendors would have to support Linux.
Outlook is turning to shit with the new update, Microsoft is nerfing it hard that it is borderline unusable, it is basically just the web app.
Roblox runs great on Linux, they just explicitly blocked it right?
They added in some anti-cheat stuff that doesn’t play well.
I used Linux daily for 20 years.
Linux may be ready, the mainstream software isn’t.
Are you working with Adobe? Good luck.
Want to play some multiplayer game? Good luck, again.
Oh yes, chrome and Firefox run fine. Just disregard LibreOffice, it’s disappointing.
I’ve been using it for around 30 years on my desktop and haven’t really had issues with it.
That makes you extremely unquallified to determine weather or not Linux is ready for the desktop of the mainstream computer user.
After 30 years you are very familiar with the workings of Linux, meaning you fic issues before the become a problem.
What is way more telling is having a Windows user/gamer just grabing a Linux ISO, burning it to a USB drive, booting the drive, installing the OS, installing Steam, installing games and gaming with zero issues on the first try.
When I started using it, not only was I not familiar with it, but linux was arguably far less ready for the desktop than it is now.
Narrator: it wasn’t
Linux Mint is ready for mainstream.
Already switched my laptop to mint. It’s great, except dealing with ALSA has been a nightmare.
So depending on your hardware, Linux Mint is not ready for the mainstream.
I have a more specific use case than most ppl. I would still say mint is ready for mainstream ppl that mainly need it for all the basic needs.
I hate how hard they try to force you to use a Microsoft account with it. And yes, the hardware requirements are too stringent. Microsoft works hard at taking away agency from users and empowering the users’ corporate bosses and data miners instead.
On top of all that, it’s 2024, Microsoft…a lot of people are struggling to buy groceries or pay rent/mortgage. They don’t want to be forced to buy a new PC.
As for “just use Linux” crowd…you know what? I agree! And some people will migrate. But it’s going to be sort of like the reddit > Lemmy migration. Don’t get overly excited about it.
We don’t need everyone to migrate, just enough that companies and developers feel obligated to support Linux. We’re slowly getting there. Valve throwing their weight behind Linux for gaming was a massive win for Linux. Another important factor is the rise of the mobile first generations and the fact that at its core Android is Linux based. It’s not completely trivial to port an Android app to Linux but it’s at least no worse than porting it to Windows.
Microsoft may still have a stranglehold on corporate desktops, but they’ve long since lost the battle for servers and their hold on the home desktop is slipping a little more each day. Losing a significant chunk of gamers to Linux would be a massive blow to MS because it has been one of the few really unassailable markets for them historically.
I really do hope to see more and more people migrate away from Windows to Linux. I truly despise Microsoft these days. But it’s not easy for everyone, or even possible in all cases, and for multiple reasons. (And, real talk, a lot of home users won’t care enough to bother).
This gentleman in the video link I’m pasting explains 3 reasons why he’s stuck with Windows. Some of these apply to me as well. And there are other reasons I’m still stuck, too. At least for now. So it’s frustrating when I see some of the knee jerk “just migrate, bro!” comments because 1. I agree with them and 2. some of us can’t. Not yet, anyway.
Yep and that’s fair, but it’s still really critical that those of us that can migrate do so. It’s a chicken and egg problem. Developers won’t feel pressured to support Linux if there’s no sizable user base, but the user base won’t grow until developers provide support for Linux. He even mentions that in that video. There’s a reason I’m only this year planning on switching my primary desktop from Windows to Linux and it’s because of how good Proton has gotten. I’ve already checked every game in my Steam library and while it’s not 100% of the library that runs, everything that doesn’t is something I don’t care about.
You are so optimistic
Nah, Linux still only accounts for about 2% of all users on Steam (active per month) so it has a long way to go still, but at least it’s heading in the right direction. If you count only English speaking Steam users that number climbs to over 5%. If Linux can get to and reliably maintain 10% that’s probably good enough to make it a first class target for even AAA releases, but it’s not there yet. The fact that so many games run fine under Linux these days is almost entirely down to the effort Valve has sunk into Proton making it relatively easy for devs to check Steamdeck support off without needing to really put much work in at all.
I downgraded from 11 to 10 and disabled TPM. Fuck you Microsoft. I’ll pay for antivirus once support ends.
Antivirus won’t do s*** for you, if a good exploit comes through they don’t need a virus they just do whatever they want. Even the best EDR packages out there have their limits if you don’t keep updates.
I like how Microsoft managed to not just shoot there own foot but somehow managed to rip off there own legs. They are driving Win10 market share but also telling people to move on.
Linux is mainstream ready. A lot of people still just use a web browser. For decades now Linux came with an intuitive GUI driven installer, a whole live Linux OS running on a CD when windows still used a dos like setup. Linux has worked great for decades to use a web browser, which is a lot of what people do on computers.
I mean I’ve been daily driving Linux and more recently Bazzite specifically for games and everything else without issue.
Therein lies the problem. The kind of people who only use a web browser have absolutely no need to use Linux as there are far better options
The kind of people who would like to switch to Linux do far more than just use a web browser, and Linux still doesn’t “just work” after all this time
I mean, I daily drive it and play games and edit video in Davinci Resolve. Works for me.
I switched to fedora on memorial day weekend, installed it along side windows. I would definitely say Linux is now ready for mainstream use based on my experience with an atomic desktop. I haven’t had a reason to boot back into windows yet.
I would guess that there’s some mode or version of Windows that turns those things off, because there are gonna be Windows 10 kiosk machines, and the kiosk/digital billboard crowd is not going to tolerate Microsoft throwing full screen stuff up.
There is a checkbox in the settings of the normal Windows 10 Pro to turn it off.
It’d be funny if there was a version of windows for kiosks and displays that was just a debloated windows 11
Microsoft hasn’t detailed ESU pricing for consumers yet, but the company did previously reveal it will offer these extended updates to consumers for the first time ever
They’re actually gonna make us pirate security updates huh
I would say Linux was more ready for mainstream use 10 years ago. Now with Wayland and (god forbid) Nvidia is quite unstable. And if the best advice is “do not buy Nvidia”, then indeed it isn’t ready for the mainstream use.
I’ve heard a lot of people pretty happy with explicit sync
My largest showstoppers with Linux is the lack of DRM support, the lack of “just works” installs, no Parsec (I’ve tried Moonlight/Sunshine many, many, many times, it never works for me), and … this one little thing …
I would use Linux more if either Virtual Desktop or Steam Link worked in Linux. As it stands, neither work, and current implementations of VR in Linux are still alpha / experimental beyond Index / SteamVR direct tethering, not an option for someone that has a cheap standalone headset.
You are saying steam link for VR correct? Because Steam Link itself works fine.
The only thing I have to dual boot for is VR at this point. And I havent even done that in maybe 2 years. But it really is the final thing for me.
All the other games I care to play work fine. The last two Resident Evil’s were flawless. Almost everything is pretty much click and play these days.
I remote to other computers and remote into my own, so I take it you are using Parsec for something specific? I never used it before.
Parsec is like Moonlight / Sunshine in that it video streams your desktop for remote access. It is very low latency and lets you even game remotely. I’ve used it to remotely video edit and also test things, mainly to control my beefy desktop from my laptop in a remote location. The difference between Moonlight and Parsec is, Parsec’s 1000x less painful to setup, especially when connecting from across the internet.
Parsec’s own website offers a linux download. I’ve never used the software, but are you saying it doesn’t work?
The client works fine, but you can’t host a linux system using Parsec.
It’s been a couple of months since I have used it. (Moved and haven’t set my server up yet). Does hardware decoding on Linux work now?
Depends on the gpu driver, the distro, and how many hoops you feel like jumping through to enable support.
There shouldn’t be any hoops. This should all be native by now.
So AMD, Nvidia and Intel all have DRM support as that is what draws content to the screen. Without DRM you wouldn’t have a GPU. You can see it in /dev/dri
not the same DRM
I think they are talking about direct rendering manager
exactly. I’m referring to playing protected content and hardware video decoding.
