The music industry has officially declared war on Suno and Udio, two of the most prominent AI music generators. A group of music labels including Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, and Sony Music Group has filed lawsuits in US federal court on Monday morning alleging copyright infringement on a “massive scale.”
The plaintiffs seek damages up to $150,000 per work infringed. The lawsuit against Suno is filed in Massachusetts, while the case against Udio’s parent company Uncharted Inc. was filed in New York. Suno and Udio did not immediately respond to a request to comment.
“Unlicensed services like Suno and Udio that claim it’s ‘fair’ to copy an artist’s life’s work and exploit it for their own profit without consent or pay set back the promise of genuinely innovative AI for us all,” Recording Industry Association of America chair and CEO Mitch Glazier said in a press release.
The best part about this is that UMG WMG and SMG all simultaneously went “you can’t take an artist’s life work and exploit it, that’s unfair, it’s OUR job to take an artist’s life’s work and exploit it”
This is true in the art industry as well. Many outsourced artists from third world countries are exploited with unreasonable wages and long hours
Of course, because music belongs to the Record Labels. How dare it be made without their consent (and a cut being paid).
Music copyright is such a shitshow. It doesn’t surprise that they would try this.
Edit: I just heard the generated songs that are part of the lawsuit. They’re pretty fucked if this is true,
Links maybe?
https://suno.com/song/16df3d1e-f817-4904-b9a8-eb6b18b6583d
https://suno.com/song/a9575656-5922-44fe-a925-b7582af7f8e4
https://suno.com/song/3b1f21b8-c56f-43fd-a858-6d70f0314b67
https://suno.com/song/a5d096df-98f7-4ba8-993b-b1696134e4c3
https://suno.com/song/b13bc2e2-5468-4b5c-b17f-44d23bdf9340
From this article
Edit: there’s even more examples in this article
…oh my GOD, they are cooked.
I feel bad for Suno’s lawyer.
Jesus Christ. Have people never heard of covers? Every song here is in some way or another akin to a published cover of another song. Pretty bad ones at that. Obviously if it were matching the songs one for one, then it would be considered copywrite enforceable but realistically these would be more along the lines of copywrite abuse. The music labels would absolutely love for this precedent to be set so that anything even that remotely resembles anything ever made will allow them to own new independent artists within established genres.
Here is a list of cases that set precedent. The thing that connects them all and makes them relevant is that the defendant was either successful, made a lot of money, was very popular or it was the label attacking a artist for sounding like themself after leaving the band. See John Fogerty v. John Fogerty
Actually technically covers require royalties, whether they’re on a CD, or performed at someplace seedy.
They’re not the time honored tradition you think they are.
Goodness gracious they must have great balls of fire to have done this.
But what if it was trained on covers?
Did those people just put the lyrics in? I’ve used udio a bunch, but not suno, but I just did it here and I and to generate the lyrics first. I could have put anything i want in there.
But even with that, at least the maria Carey one is really bad.
Here’s one. Did they overfit their model and think they could block the bad prompts?
Seems that way
Our technology is transformative; it is designed to generate completely new outputs, not to memorize and regurgitate pre-existing content
Oops! You appear to have consumed and believed your own shit you’re peddling
“Completely new”
Okay, then don’t train it on anything at all and let’s see how it turns out.
I wish we could hear music made by people who’ve never heard it before
To be fair, it’s as “new” as what the major record labels put out!
Aren’t there two guys who already “own” all possible combinations of notes they should get in on the fight too
So exploiting artists is fine, but when the labels get scammed, that’s where they draw the line?
But of course. If artists want to fight for their rights, they better get their own lawyers.
How convenient, that this would never happen, because the label leeched them dry
I can’t believe I’m on the music industry’s side on this. It’s a sad day when I have to root for the team that’s made it hard for me to make a living while they fight against the team that’s trying to make me obsolete.
Staggeringly naive, tbh. Your profession will be made obsolete as a self-sustaining for-profit enterprise either way. The difference is that the tooling can either be owned exclusively by megacorp, or it can be owned by people.
It’s better to be a bard relying on the charity and small custom of others than a literal sharecropper fueling Universal’s proprietary model for next to nothing. At least in the former case you’re free.
I see you missed my point.
AI tools and entertainment will become common place in the future. All these lawsuits decide is if we can have it for free or through a subscription payed to Sony and friends.
The lawyers are just loving this AI bloodbath.
Okay, now we’re cooking!
This is like when the bad guy from the last movie teams up with the heroes at the last minute to help fight the new big bad.
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