• Chainweasel@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Good.
    This is just the “I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit all over again.
    Notice how literally none of these people have any problem whatsoever with any of Trump’s gaffes?
    They have no problem whatsoever with Trump’s policies. They have no problem whatsoever with project 2025. They have no problem at all that Donald Trump is 79 years old.
    But they have a huge fucking problem with the fact that Joe Biden is two and a half years older than Donald Trump.
    You would think if they actually gave a damn about the welfare of the country they would be concerned about Donald Trump in the least, yet crickets.

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      3 months ago

      I think it might be a bit of a bold assumption that everyone who thinks Biden is too old to do an effective job and should step aside is a huge Trump supporter.

      There are plenty of people who hate Trump with a passion that thinks Biden isn’t up to the task of winning this election.

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        3 months ago

        And I’m sure that’s not who they’re talking about. We all know there are many people her that suggest that no one vote for Biden. I’m sure most can name them.

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          Sure, there absolutely are bad faith arguers but there is also a significant slice of the population that is deathly afraid that Biden will pull a fucking Hillary. He has worked with the DNC to effectively eliminate any other candidates from entering the primaries and if his fucking hubris gets Trump elected he should bear all the blame.

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              3 months ago

              You mean which candidates publicly announced an intent to challenge a sitting president in a primary and torpedo their political career?

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                So then how did he keep them from running? You need to choose a lane and stick with it. Either he purposefully stopped them from running, or they chose not to because of Status-quo.

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                  He didn’t invite challengers or step back in advance of the primary. There is such a thing as soft power and he used it to make sure there wasn’t a real primary.

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                    3 months ago

                    When has any candidate ever invited challengers?

                    Candidates don’t “step back”, challengers step up. If nobody wants to because the candidate appears certain to win the primary, don’t blame the candidate.

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                    He doesn’t dictate the who runs. You said yourself. Career suicide, remember?

                    We’re done with this now.

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      No, it isn’t. Biden is letting his fucking pride erode our chances of avoiding a dictatorship.

      We’ll see how future appearances are but he was incoherent at the debate and if that keeps up it makes another Trump presidency much more likely.

      Also, fuck off for blindly assuming what everyone else thinks and assuming everyone who disagrees with you is arguing in bad faith.

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      “I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit

      Fun fact: support in the form of weapons and political cover from the governments of the UK, Germany, and ESPECIALLY the US is why the fascist apartheid regime hasn’t been FORCED to stop the genocide several months ago.

      He knows this and even though the majority of his prospective voters are IMPLORING him to stop participating in a genocide in their name, even though he KNOWS that it’s likely to cost him the election and even though he KNOWS that it’s likely to be the last one ever if he does lose, he still refuses.

      He’s putting his Zionist ideology and his stubborn inability to admit fault ahead of not just Gazan lives, but also the survival of American democracy and the universality of international law.

      Even KAMALA would be a better choice than someone so completely out of touch with and devoid of respect for the ideals and institutions he’s supposed to be protecting.

      Still better than Trump, though, so we just have to keep pretending that the old war criminal is perfect, lest the Blue No Matter Who apparatchiks lob spurious allegations of fascist loyalties at us 😮‍💨🤦

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      It’s not good. Biden stands the worst chance against Trump, which is why concern trolls are so desperate to shut down and dismiss any discussion of replacing him.

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      This is just the “I won’t vote for Biden because Israel refuses to sign a ceasefire” bullshit all over again.

      This is incredibly disingenuous. More like “Because he is arming, supporting and diplomatically protecting a genocidal government.” We know it’s not his fault Israel are assholes, it’s the stuff he is doing that is the problem.

      They have no problem whatsoever with Trump’s policies. They have no problem whatsoever with project 2025.

      My brother in christ why do you think we want Biden to actually be a good candidate?

      Genocide supporting, doddering old Biden is a much better candidate than the unhinged far right felon that wouldn’t know the truth if it pissed on his face, BUT HE NEEDS TO WIN THE ELECTION FIRST. If being not as bad as trump was enough Hilary would have won.

      It is precisely because I hate trump so much that I want Biden to be better. If you are in a debate with Trump and most people watching think you lost, you fucked up big time. The pigeon you’re playing chess with might have shit on the board and felt like he won, but you should have at least done enough so that the audience watching this didn’t fucking agree with him.

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      Yes, this is scary, the media are basically all working for Trump, even those who claim the opposite. But they are falling for the Trump foghorn, just as much as any average Joe, where the media are supposed to be professionals and above that.

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        Falling for NOTHING the trump campaign is going to give the media millions of dollars for advertising spots. The media have a vested interest in keeping the horse race going.

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      Notice how literally none of these people have any problem whatsoever with any of Trump’s gaffes?

      What? Which people?

      Trumps a client of a pedophile sex trafficking ring that had his dealer assassinated. He built his political career on the racist conspiracy that Obama was born in Kenya, colluded with Russia to become president, appointed climate change deniers to head the EPA and Dept of Energy, appointed public education deniers to head the Dept of Education, oil isnt bad enough for the environment for him so he endorses coal, was antivax before republicans thought it was cool, and nothing else on this world is closer to convincing me of the Bible than the idea that Trump is the antichrist.

      But no trump supporter is going to see this

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      I’ve been pointing all of this out for a while now. Ask any of them about these issues and they have no answer at all. They just divert the discussion back to gEnOciDe jOe.

      Everyone needs to hold these trolls accountable for what they’d say. Ask them to answer why they seem to not care about Trump and what he’s promised to do.

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        There’s rational criticism to be against Biden but most the critical mass of outrage over his debate performance is hysterical * and takes air time from valid concerns regarding his ability to preserve the Union. *