• PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    Today in things that never happened: whatever the fuck this post is.

    Nobody liked Biden.
    Did you get offended because someone argued for critical support in the absence of choice??? You’re acting like a butthurt baby.

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      If you genuinely think this didn’t happen, you haven’t been paying attention during the last month. Like there haven’t been hundreds of people doing this shit:

      https://sh.itjust.works/comment/12559334

      At this point i feels like it’s all republican trying to do a psyop telling people not to vote.

      In response to a fucking meme stating a reasonable concern, which honestly is pretty telling of the mental state of some people. This is just an example I could google from memory, but this behavior has been rampant.

    • SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      2 months ago

      Plenty of people on Lemmy immediately attacked you if you mentioned that Biden was going to tank the election or that he had mental health issues, and even though they became a little bit less aggressive after the debate, they still insisted and would call you a Trump supporter if you even suggested that the Democrats should have someone else run. Now that Biden is out of the race and Kamala is projected to have a much better chance than him, they’ve been proven wrong, but none of them will apologize for having denied reality.

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        You want an apology for that?

        That’s dumb as shit.

        That’s like going to a restaurant that sells hot dogs and hamburgers and ordering a pizza. No, they say. We only have hamburgers and hot dogs. Which would you prefer? And you just keep saying pizza. You get frustrated and leave. You come back next week and see that they added pizza to the menu, and you want an apology because last week they refused to sell you pizza that wasn’t available?

        We’re all happy about Biden bowing out, but last week pizza wasn’t an option, it was only hamburgers and hot dogs, and talking about pizza just reduces voter motivation, which is great for Trump. (I didn’t want to spoil the good names of hamburgers and hot dogs by assigning Trump’s name to either)

        So no, no apology, but you should feel fortunate that it worked out despite your dissent.

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              "disingenuous

              adjective

              not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does"

              Was this analogy sincere? Did you know it was flawed when you said it?

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          And here you have it: the serf mentality of the median American. Speaking out against your in-group, lest things could ever become better? Madness, better tell everyone to shut up about the fact that the ship is sinking, at least we’re not directly ingesting arsenic. If things ever become better, thank the heavens that they happened to fall down that way, because that behavior leaves you at the behest of whoever is leading the chorus, even if that person had been clearly screwing up for months, with no hope of ever influencing it yourself.

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            That poster has a point. I’m a Brit here, so no skin in the game. You’re more focussed on being right that trying to comprehend that people look at things differently.

            No one thought Biden was good, but he was the candidate and most know that name recognition is key in US elections. Most presential candidates fail on their first run. Kamala, despite having some OK polling numbers still has to get through to disengaged American voters who do not follow politics and probably know little more than the attack lines heropponents will throw at her this campaign. They have to define her before others do. This option is riskier than you realise, the only thing that changed was Biden became a riskier option than before.

            Things are less black and white than you want them to be. Nuance and grey area is key, despite being inconvenient.

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            Ha. It’s funny that you think you understand me. You’re way off the mark.

            What I want is FAR from what even Harris is going to bring to the party, but in the reality that we live in, you have to take small steps towards the goal. Not throw a tantrum when you don’t get everything you want right now.

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    I can forgive someone for being disconnected from reality, but when that someone goes and berates others for stating that a person obviously suffering from age-related issues does, in fact, does suffer from age-related issues, insists that it’s impossible for anyone else to compete against Trump, and has the knife ready at their hand ready to jump at you with accussations of being a Republican for raising very reasonable concerns, that’s a pretty heavy issue, and plenty of Lemmy users have done one or several of those things to the point that, frankly, discussing politics on this site has been just almost as unbearable as doing so in Reddit.

    I’m not going to receive apologies and I’m not expecting them, but I’m at least going to ask you to take a long time (weeks, months) wondering from time to time if you’re suffering from cognitive biases in your opinions. This is not an insult, everyone suffers from cognitive biases, I did suffer from pretty heavy ones a long time ago, but if they’re provoking harm (and most specially, doing political damage), you should at the very least take a look at them.

    On a side note, I have to say that I didn’t expect much from Kamala other than having a reasonably better chance than Biden of preventing the US from further falling into fascism, but she has surprised me positively by confronting with Netanyahu as soon as she got a bit of spotlight.