• realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubOP
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    15 days ago

    People didn’t like this take because I was talking about Israel and Palestine, but if you willingly engage in a war, you forfeit your right to your land. This is how it’s always worked.

    • MyOpinion@lemm.ee
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      15 days ago

      Israel and Palestine is complex and so many hands have been Involved in the size and creation of the state of Israel. Growing the size of Israel through war is not a good idea in my opinion.

      • realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.clubOP
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        15 days ago

        I generally agree. I support Israel’s right to exist but there’s no good reason for it to grow. I think it can grow through war though, but also believe it shouldn’t.

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          Well, if the Ottoman Empire did not side with the Central Powers in WWI, they wouldn’t have lost their land and it wouldn’t have been sliced up and eventually given to the Zionists. Although, the tension was already there and would have probably been bloody either way, just without allied support.

          Oh Franz Ferdinand, you should have stayed home.

    • Willy@sh.itjust.works
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      15 days ago

      as far as how it always worked, it never even required willingly going to war, just loosing. id bet there are no people on earth that haven’t been conquered and displaced or assimilated at least a bit. many of them hundreds of times. these no such thing as indigenous/native people or land unless you work with a very short memory or have no history.

    • The Pantser@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      Because one is holy land and the other is ass holey land. Idk actually I really stretched to find a joke.