• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    A big problem is things tied unnecessarily to an internet service. We need to educate people that there may be alternatives and we need our purchasing decisions to support that. For example, most home automation stuff should NOT require or use any internet.

    The article calls it “software tethering”. If any support commitments encourage manufacturers to stop that, we’ll all be better off. Let’s start with requiring users be clearly notified of software tethering, so they know what they’re buying

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      this is so infuriating

      I have a Hatch, which i have programed for my babies bed time, just play white noise sound at this time, turn off this sound in the morning, play bird song when hes supposed to wake up

      I specifically got the older model, since the newer model has a lot of these basic features locked behind a paywall, while the old one they are just free.

      Went traveling, and without a wifi connection it wont even do this. Apparently making an alarm clock remember its settings without a wifi connection is too much work.

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      Let me own my fucking device so I can use it. Please. We are creating so much waste cause some program can’t run. It’s absurd.

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      At least make it required to not brick at EOS if it’s a device that would otherwise run. Like a laundry machine.

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        There’s no reason a laundry machine requires an internet connection

        • if an internet connection provides additional functionality such as notification, it easier to have the machine work normally without notifications
        • there’s no reason a machine requires an internet connection, especially with the release of the Matter/Thread standard to unify home automation local protocols

        When I got new machines about five years ago, I briefly considered connected machines. It would be really nice to get notifications on my phone but how can it possibly cost that much and why does the only option depend on a cloud service?

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          I think a LAN-connected machine would be good, if you could use an app or open-source, well-documented API to control the machine, but there is no reason a washing machine should need to connect to the outer internet. You can VPN into your local network if it’s that necessary to control it away from home.

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            The new Thread/Matter standard is an attempt to bring together various home automation protocols for exactly things like this.

            • Previously an appliance manufacturer may have needed to support multiple protocols and decide how to expose functionality.
            • the new standard is IPv6 based: Matter is the Ethernet protocol and Thread a local-only low power mesh network, and it’s sponsored by Apple, Amazon and many other players. However another great feature is a standard set of device types, so most of the functionality you need to implement is already defined and other services already know how to interact with it.

            If were Matter/Thread, I can already ask Siri the status or configure Alexa to announce when it’s done or script my home automation hub to flash an LED indicator.

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          I agree. But the people who have one should not need to buy new machines just because support ended. And it’s my understanding that it’s currently the case with several brands.