I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don’t actually think everyone there is insane. I don’t care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It’s not going to scare me to take this down

  • JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl
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    4 months ago

    Maybe you can clear this up then:

    Why does everyone there unequivocally, wholeheartedly, unquestionably support Russia?

    Russia has barely a trace of communism anymore and it is hard right oligarchy that fits almost every definition of fascism. Not to mention HEAVILY racist and anti-LGBTQ (I have multiple friends who were from Russia and they were the ones who originally told me that before I saw it for myself in Russia)

    Yet the “antifa” hexbear will literally down vote you to hell and ban you if you say anything even slightly bad about Russia.

    Also news@hexbear is 80% articles about the war with everyone citing Russian propaganda as absolute truth and every western media, every human rights group, etc… is completely lying about the war.

    An interesting juxtaposition as they are in the same way pro Palestine and cite those human rights groups as telling the absolute truth in that case

    • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
      2·
      4 months ago

      I don’t know for sure. I’ll voice a strong belief in this regard, but take it with a grain of salt.

      I think that Hexbear’s views on Russia is a specific case of a general tendency that you see all across social media (not just HB or Lemmy): to dichotomise complex matters into exactly one good side and exactly one bad side, while assuming that everyone belongs to those two bags. It should go like:

      1. NATO bad.
      2. NATO fights Russia.
      3. Criticism against Russia assumed to be NATO support.
      4. Since NATO bad, NATO supporter bad.
      5. Anyone who would otherwise criticise both NATO and Russia gets screeched at, and eventually shuts up.
      6. “Russia good” becomes part of a local consensus.

      It gets messier when you add Ukraine into the equation, or consider people conflating governments and populations, but it should give you an idea - it starts with somewhat sane premises but quickly devolves into insane lack of logic.

      It explains nicely why they’re supporting Palestine, even with the apparent contradiction: Israel is associated with USA and thus with NATO.

      IMO their dichotomy in this topic is idiotic. However it is not just from their part, and blaming specifically Hexbear for this, like some people would do, would be unjust (and a self-demonstrating example). We, people using the internet in the 20s, are collectively doing it.

      By the way, you see another example of the general phenomenon in this comment chain. Ctrl+F “elephant shit” and look at the comment I was replying to - “you either treat two types of bad as the same, or you’re defending one.”

      [Now I probably drew the ire of all sides at the same time. Frankly? I don’t give a fuck; I’m too old and grumpy to play along.]