• shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    They are quite lucky that woman was not my mother because she’d have pulled out her gun and been like, I told you to move, damnit.

    • BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one
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      2 months ago

      That’s pretty stupid of her.

      Without hesitation, because she is brandishing a weapon, anyone else simply watching the scene from a distance feeling even slightly any emotion is justified to shoot her to death as a form of self defense.

      Never draw a weapon unless the intent is to use it, and in her case she would only intend to use it as a threat not a deterrence, and therefore deserves to die in this imaginary scenario.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        anyone else simply watching the scene from a distance feeling even slightly any emotion is justified to shoot her to death as a form of self defense

        That really depends on your area and what witnesses exist to corroborate your testimony. You can’t just “say” you felt endangered just because a gun was drawn, it needs to pass the “reasonable person” standard (i.e. would a theoretical “reasonable person” feel threatened in this scenario?). I’m guessing an elderly woman pointing a firearm at an individual who is clearly harassing her doesn’t present a danger to a reasonable person who isn’t in the line of fire.

        That said, if the elderly woman appears jumpy or something, maybe there’s a case. But it’s not an open-and-shut case like shooting someone who is taking hostages or something.

        Source: am American in gun-friendly state who reads news articles about justified and unjustified shooting cases.

      • grubbyweasel@sh.itjust.works
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        2 months ago

        Wait so the people that are justified to shoot her to death, would I be justified to shoot them since they’re pulling weapons too? Is it then open season on me

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          2 months ago

          Yes. This is why brandishing a weapon is so fucking stupid, and why cops always get a wrist slap after shooting first instead of asking questions or deescalate.

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        2 months ago

        I’m sorry but doing creepy shit like stopping the car a stranger is in to freak them out is what actually gets you shot in America. Th3se two are lucky this woman wasn’t a red blooded american.