Just know I saw this, because I would never ever visit freaking groupon. “Sponsored shortcuts” can be disabled in the settings . Bleh :(
I mean, I’m not a big fan of it either. On the other hand, I want Firefox to continue to grow and be actively developed and supported. If not from sources like these - to me unobtrusive - ads, where else can their revenue come from?
Not trying to be controversial. Just asking. What business opportunities would we support Mozilla in that we’d be happy with?
While you’re not wrong, it’s not the right attitude.
I donate to Mozilla every year. It’s not chump change either. It’s the largest donation I make to an open source project. They are listed as beneficiaries in my will. When I make my donation this year, I’m going to tell them that they risk my next donation going elsewhere if they keep the path they are on.
The web is quickly becoming enshittified and we, users, have some say in this.
The Linux kernel is self supported without ads and many distros are able to make releases without ads. A browser that is our direct connection to each other and the world should be no different.
Librewolf is probably the best candidate but they rely on Firefox to continue developing. Maybe it’s time to focus on Librewolf and try to get it working with Firefox.
There’s absolutely no way I’ll donate after they announced shutting down mozilla.social in favor of flushing their money down the AI path.
I will not say that you’re not doing the right thing, but I’d suggest reading the financial statements of Mozilla. If you think the way they’re steering Firefox is an issue, you may find a few surprises in there.
The Linux kernel is sponsored by many, many large companies who also contribute heavily to it. It is not lacking funds at all.
There was/is a recent lawsuit against Google for paying other browsers to make google the default search engine, and I think it was ruled against Google. And that payment is like 81% of Mozilla’s income. So if they have to stop those payments, Mozilla’s is gonna have to find some other ways to make money or cut back massively on their budget. So while I don’t like ads, if Mozilla has to do this to stay around, I’ll support them. If I got any facts wrong here, someone please correct me.
The money that goes in (and out) of Mozilla is well documented. At this point it’s mostly google. And it mostly pays for administration of the corporation itself.
I could care less about Mozilla. Supporting for profit businesses is kind of silly as they will never support you. Buy something that you like but don’t have blind brand loyalty. You should serve yourself first.
I agree with the sentiment, but in this case Mozilla is a non-profit.
And before someone jumps in… Yes, Mozilla Corporation is technically for profit, but it’s 100% owned by the non-profit Mozilla Foundation.
Clearly they want profit or else they would be running a fund raiser. I personally don’t see Mozilla as a nonprofit in reality. Same story with OpenAI
I mean, it’s not just a thing you can call yourselves, there’s a legal definition. There’s no way to pay money out of a nonprofit into your pocket without committing embezzlement.
If you work for a nonprofit, you can be paid a salary; if you control a nonprofit, you can pay higher salaries to yourself and/or your friends.
Yep. At which point that becomes embezzlement is super vague, but presumably it would be at some point. If you’re just a little loose with self compensation as opposed to potentially sinking the organisation, though, it would be hard to prosecute you.
This also goes for the feed-the-starving-kids type nonprofits. I’m aware of examples that spend most of their budget on management and marketing IRL.
IANAL
You should serve yourself first
Yep, start by learning that the expression is “I couldn’t care less” so you don’t come across as an idiot
Groupon? What decade am I in?
Aged your self here, pops
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This guy gets it.
TIL Groupon is still a thing
Is there a Browser where I don’t have to turn off these type of sponsored links? I’ve done it in Chrome, Firefox and Opera at minimum.
Either Fennec or Mull. https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
https://f-droid.org/en/packages/us.spotco.fennec_dos/
Firefox stripped of its playstore requirements and telementry gives you fennec.
Fennec + arkenfox user.js installed = Mull.
On the other hand, it’s the absolute least intrusive marketing, you can turn it off permanently, and it supports Mozilla who are one of the main bulwarks defending privacy.
Targeted marketing is not privacy friendly ever. Mozilla doesn’t need your support. It is up to them to make a profit not you. Don’t sacrifice yourself for the sake some some company.
Qutebrowser, Dillo, LadyBird, Zen. Good luck.
Non of those are privacy focused. Ladybird isn’t even finished yet.
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Yes
For mobile or Desktop?
Every time I say “Safari”, I get death threats.
go to customize homepage >shortcuts >toggle off sponsored shortcuts
Yes do some free labour because of marketing parasites
or not. your call
librewolf and mullvad do the same job without this bullshit
There’s no librewolf for mobile on their site. This post was specifically about iOS
Mull on fdriod among other options i don’t remember
Ok but this post is about iOS
i will show myself out…
You need to charge your phone
Living on the edge haha
Google blocks ublock on chrome just as Firefox adds first party ads
Fan-fucking-tastic
Wym “just as”, those sponsored links for Firefox have been around for a while, haven’t they? I definitely remember turning that setting off a while ago.
The title starts with “suddenly” implying it’s something new compared to the old sponsored links
I can say these sponsored shortcuts have been around for ages, I remember turning them off a long time ago.
Its been there forever. And you can disable it
Use Librewolf
Can’t you disable it in settings? On android there is an option to toggle off sponsored shortcuts.
I agree they shouldn’t force it on but at least with minimal effort and if it’s really annoying it’s easy to disable.Yes, you can. The same way you can disable a lot of annoying things in other programs. Still an annoyance at the expense of users, and a gateway to more passive users to click on something unexpected.
The android version has had this for a while.
Use something else like Fennec or Mull. Also you can configure Firefox with user.js
On Mobile devices, I simply don’t use the homepage. I always disable it and use a blank page.
On desktop, I use a homepage/new tab replacer.
Wait, you mean you don’t have it set to go to a blank tab every time you open a new tab? /s
I don’t have much sympathy for a locked down ecosystem
