Is the future just having a human slave in a third world country strap into VR and carry your groceries for you?
That’s basically what happens right now. Remember Amazon’s smart grocery store? It was just people in India watching cameras. Computer vision wasn’t capable of it.
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Makes me wonder how much of Tesla’s “Full Self Driving” is just some dude playing GTA VR with you in the passenger seat.
Well, I think the self driving taxis across the us apparently need human interaction every 6 minutes on average… So are they self driving? I don’t know.
We can’t use our phones and drive, but someone can have a screen and drive 6 cars at the same time…
And I only need human interaction every few days. Take that AI… :)
That’s not true at all. I personally know a person who worked on that technology.
Human beings got involved only when necessary. Do you really think Amazon wants to pay humans to be cashiers?
Turk in a box you say? I’m shocked! Shocked!
Well, not that shocked.
We live in a fucking nightmare. Rich assholes wining and dining with robots while most of the world fucking suffers. It’s actually crazy. We are bringing into our reality what was just a bad dream like 50 years ago. This is just wild man.
All those sci-fi novels were meant as warnings not instruction manuals
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I’m betting my two balls that Elysium becomes a real thing
The people apologizing for this sort of behavior, even here, just shows how easy it is to manipulate people.
You remember the first time Musk talked about robotaxis? He never delivered. This robotaxi is another vaporware
Similar to the company who just dressed up models as robots for their presentation
I feel that almost certainly that is where Musk got the idea from, it worked for them, etc!
i’m expecting the first million optimus robots will be remote controlled by armies of ‘trainers’ and elon will claim the ai will use the footage to train itself to do everything later, but we need a trillion+ dollars of compute to achieve that, but the software and hardware required are simply not possible at any budget anytime soon. maybe its good enough to have mass remote slavery for some.
Maybe there’s a brain in there imported from some poor country.
See: the cyborg soldier subplot of Metal Gear Rising: Revengence
He also said that it would result in an “age of abundance” where the cost of everything would drop dramatically.
This never, never, ever happens when they say it will happen. It’s always the opposite. Prices go up, jobs disappear, new subscriptions appear, etc.
It may or may not, you as a consumer will simply never see it. Any costs savings gets gobbled up.
Question - assuming they are human controlled, how do these compare with bots created by competitors like Boston Dynamics?
They don’t. They are not competitors. This is not a product that exists as a real purchasable item. Those little robot dog toys are closer to BD than what Elon has done here.
arent tech events always a propaganda show of “what we want it to be” and not what it actually is?
I mean if drone pilots are cucking people and blowing them instead of blowing them up, I’ll take that as progress at this point
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He [Elmo] referred to these as “your own personal R2D2 C3-PO,” and that in the long term, these robots would cost less than a car – specifically, ~$20k-$30k. A video also described them as an “autonomous assistant, humanoid friend” which could be used for basically any task you can think of.
Perhaps don’t market things as something they’re not?
Imagine paying 30k$ so that some guy in India gives you regular handjobs 🤦
Now imagine that’s your job 🤦
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You’re pretending as if he’s just honest and this is just the most reasonable ways of doing things.
You’re completely ignoring the intentional misrepresentation of the capabilities of the technology. The main point of the robots is to be autonomous, which they’re not.
It’s like if I were making some waterproof product and then made a huge presentation in which I have to avoiding getting any water on the product, while pretending they’re immersed in water.
In this instance he is marketing what the final product is meant to do
He’s been doing that with full self driving for the last decade and the event showed it might be a decade more. It doesn’t give much confidence.
Is Tesla selling their fully autonomous driving cars yet?
A promise from Melon means nothing.
Which is lying. Miss selling conceptually in the UK. It would be illegal.
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https://youtu.be/Q1QPXyebhiY?t=505
So what’s our timeline here?
Not long! It will probably happen in our lifetimes. We just need to figure out… how to make it work
They’re marketing them as something they will be…
That is false advertising—which is illegal.
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If you’re lying to the consumer and not disclosing that it’s a product concept, yes.
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shouldn’t market them as fully developed humanoid assistants, then.
