Don’t think I need to summarize this one. This should be world news right now. This is bad news for everyone.

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    So? I can’t WAIT until Trump takes Office and makes it ILLEGAL to MENTION Climate Change! It’s not like it’s going to kill the Majority of People through Dehydration Starvation and EXTREME Acts of Weather! It’s all just PROPAGANDA to sell us SOLAR PANELS!

    -Republicans who Breathe In Toxic Gas Fumes!

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      Trump seems to lack object permanence because he thinks if you don’t measure something, it isn’t happening.

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        People keep making the mistake of assuming he has thoughts and feelings like a regular human. He’s more like a cat, simply a being of pure, unadulterated Id.

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      I honestly don’t know how you have the motivation to keep this up.

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    So when I get to the section titled “what can we do?” I just stop reading, because what’s the fucking point?

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        I was actually thinking about this last night. I was considering building a list of people that I should visit.

        If we truly reach a point where the world becomes so horribly unlivable for so many people then I will go pay the people responsible a visit. They shouldn’t be allowed to live a happily ever after in their climate compounds funded by their destruction of the planet.

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          They won’t. The truth is biodome didnt work. They may stave off an extra 10-20 years underground but they are foolish if they think they will be spared. These effects span hundreds of years. This truly is our only sinking ship in an ocean of stars.

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            We always wondered what the great filter might be for the Fermi Paradox. Turns out one of the big ones is just that our petri dish is so delicate we can’t advance very far without it collapsing immediately.

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              It’s not even that. The petri dish could sustain the advancement until we could pivot to cleaner/safer things. We just chose not to pivot. The filter (for humans, anyway) is selfishness and greed.

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      I don’t know what we are supposed to do. It’s not over, we still have a fight left on our hands. I’m just going to be depressed the rest of the day and hope my wife doesn’t notice bcz it’s her birthday. I’ll figure out how I can help later.

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    I’ve seen a couple of articles from earth.com shared lately and they always have this clickbaity sensationalist tone. I don’t like it.

    Looking at the original publication this article is based on I don’t understand much (I’m not a climate scientist myself), but one sentence stands out:

    Whether global warming has affected the strength of this overturning circulation over the past century is still debated: observational studies suggest that there has been persistent weakening since the mid-twentieth century, whereas climate models systematically simulate a stable circulation.

    The climate models we all know and predict how climate change will affect us all seem to work on the basis that these currents have a stable circulation that doesn’t change, which doesn’t seem to be the case. Therefore the climate models we’ve known until now might be wrong… and things could be even worse.

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    Does it mean, for instance, Europe will have the same temperature than Canada and north of US (same latitude)? Without speaking about all the other dramatic effects…

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    What brings warm winters to Europe is a warm northern Atlantic, and Mediterranean. This can still happen with a slower AMOC, and in fact is at record warmth these past 2 years, and a warm winter for Europe should be expected.

    https://climatereanalyzer.org/wx/todays-weather/?var_id=sstanom&ortho=1&wt=1

    That AMOC may be slower is not stopping significant heat where the gulf stream flows. CO2 is making norther part of oceans hot without the gulf stream being fast, but hotter tropical water moving more slowly can still make for comparable heat dumped north.

    The other major change happening last 2 years is that Arctic ocean freezing is thinner than previously. While Arctic ice volume set a major record low this past summer, the volume of meltwater flowing south was pretty steady with recent years, because the winter peak ice volume was also a record low. That winter ice volume is low primarily from ocean heat finding its way up to the Arctic in summer, and less due to extreme summer warm air temperatures.

    The actual danger from slow AMOC, that is manifesting these last 2 years, is an extremely hot tropical Atlantic. Heat not moving away as fast as it is generated.

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    The Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation, or AMOC, is like a massive ocean conveyor belt that moves warm and cold water around the Atlantic Ocean.

    So you’re saying that global warming is making AMOC run amok?

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    Their simulation less than two decades, but looking at past climate predictions, I feel like we’ll reach that point in a decade or less…

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    And we’re still obsessed with economic growth/metastasis 😂

    “Herp derp don’t worry! we’ll just keep injecting steroids and nutrients directly into your tumor. It’s the only way to save you. The tumor just needs to be so large that it will magically discover a way to keep metastasizing even larger… forever!”

    Won’t that absolutely kill me even faster?

    “Oh, yeah probably. Who fucking cares though, growth!”