• fkn@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    1 year ago

    That’s because it literally is the result of mozila, Microsoft and later Google fighting about what the right language choices were/are. Browser detection scripts and shims are still a thing, but back in the day we had to code that shit by hand every, and I mean every, minor version release of every browser.

    • Reliant1087@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      This is super interesting. But why isn’t HTML or CSS a similar mess? I found their structure to be more logical than JS. Parts of JS feels like it’s intended as a backend language but parts of it don’t.

      • fkn@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Wait, you don’t think html is a mess? Lol.

        Css benefited from coming much later than the other two… But it also has issues.

          • fkn@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Lol. That’s like saying js is ok as long as you never use the parts that 90% of js developers use.

            • Reliant1087@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Really? I find that css is pretty much the ugly part of html. Html is no worse than markdown or latex. If you just wrote plain HTML and were okay with how it rendered, you would have nicely structured code.

              • fkn@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                My point is that if you only use the parts that don’t bring confusion you have a problem… Nobody ever does that in production… Much less with any frameworks. There is no such thing as semantic html at scale or in any modern framework.

                • Reliant1087@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  That isn’t the fault of the language though. It does what it was designed to well. Maybe it is I’ll suited to achieve things it wasn’t designed to do?

                  I could absolutely write code to do data analytics with C and gnuplot, does that mean they’re the appropriate tools for doing that when pandas, SPSS, Julia or matlab exists? Probably not.

                  • fkn@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Maybe I misunderstood your position. It seems like you are now saying you understand how html messy?