• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Beasley kind of has a point that it’s a stretch to call monetary debt as murder, but I really hope more people start voting for politicians who will end privatized healthcare.

    Even if a claim gets denied the fact that it was submitted means you already got the treatment.

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      Even if a claim gets denied the fact that it was submitted means you already got the treatment.

      That’s quite often not true. There are tons of procedures/tests/etc that don’t get run until a “prior authorization” has been granted by the insurance company. Also medications and durable medical equipment are not dispensed until insurance has been approved. If the prior auth is not granted or the medication is not covered, they usually will not be performed/provided unless the patient pays up front, and without the negotiating power of the insurance company, the patient will be paying 5 to 10 times what the insurance company would have paid.

      I’ve personally been dealing with medical issues the past 3 months and the amount of prior auths I’ve seen go by is astounding. Tomorrow I actually go in for some more tests that they couldn’t do a few weeks ago because these ones in particular needed some prior auths that are harder to get.

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        4 days ago

        Generally speaking, uninsured medical costs and medication are cheaper than what the insurance company pays. SOURCE

        Hospitals and Insurance companies do this because it’s a write-off for the insurance company and it makes the patients feel better about their coverage plan.

        You likely could get the treatment without the authorizations if you pressed, I sincerely doubt the hospital would try to stop you, but that would put you into debt so obviously don’t do that.

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      4 days ago

      Denied treatment is murder. Social murder. Stop simping for these companies they don’t give a fuck about you.

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        3 days ago

        Insurance companies deny payments for treatments. Hospitals deny treatment.

        Insurance companies shouldn’t exist, I would never simp for them, but as a personal policy I always call out lies. The lie in this case being “insurance companies are murderers.”