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  • The way that you’ve been presenting it toggles how money is distributed behind “everyone has what they need”, especially when I bring up issues like classism or access to the market.

    We’ve seen it with social security, which acts as as a pseudo UBI for retired people in the USA. People dependent on UBI are generally pushed to lower cost of living areas of the USA due to cost. I expect that to skyrocket when rent control and government housing is pulled for a base salary. As I’ve mentioned before, this is going to exacerbate rich bubbles where wealth is generated or areas with natural amenities.

    Some states have already started experimenting with a cash payment on the condition that they waive any rights to welfare. I can see UBI becoming a part of this; you’ve been paid to live, you just can’t afford to live here.




  • A lot of people said depression, but instead I want to focus on something else.

    For your new job, you talked about how the work is similar, but how do you feel about your new job? Do you have a similar friend network of coworkers? How is your boss compared to your last one? Is the company culture the same or different. I ask because there are a lot of intangibles to a job that may not seem obvious, and the new job may not be as tuned for you as the last one.

    Regarding fatigue and lack of desire currently, did you feel these feelings when you were unemployed? Were you working on a limited amount of energy before going to work? Were there cases where you would feel this loss of energy while out of work and looking for a job?

    You are focusing on being unemployed, but the issue may be the new job.


  • it’s actually easier to find work

    It depends on the job. If you want a job that requires more than a person’s basic needs, you may not be able to do it. You are also going to run into more nuisance job. Imagine how much bigger groups like Jehovah’s Witnesses or the Mormon Church can get when they don’t have to pay for their proselytizers.

    does that not mean that everyone has their basic needs met?

    Define basic needs. Can housing be denied if it is in a highly desirable area? Is clothing restricted based on material and cost? Are those without work going to complain that their basic needs of being treated as a human aren’t being met because they can’t have the quality of life of people are working, and are people who work in demanding jobs going to refuse working because they aren’t being compensated for their time?


  • Not OP, but it can be very detrimental to people’s mental health if they don’t have a role in society. Not a job, but a purpose where their labor provides a benefit to others, like being a caregiver or volunteer. Depression is commonly cited among those who are unemployed, on disability, or recently retired.

    You are also going to see a lot of classism surrounding UBI. After all, I can see a lot of people who are able to work becoming bitter at a portion of society that don’t need to work.