I’m confused about what you want.

Mods literally got replaced by reddit because they refused to capitulate.

I’m not a fan of reddits choices, but if I was deeply involved in a community I’d consider staying to be part of that community still.

Are you against roads?

Do you use the sidewalk without paying a fee to a private entity that helped develop it?

Housing doesn’t have to be a scarcity market. I don’t anyone is complaining about people who own a house, but people are complaining about companies and individuals who own 10,000 homes.

One of the problems with arguing with people online is I tend to assume people are arguing in good faith.

After getting about 50 studies showing that cell phones are bad for learning, I switched to duckduckgo. Not until page 3 did I find your sources. You have waded through data that says you are wrong. I’m not interested in copying them for you.

I disagree.

Great! But you have no evidence to support your argument. Your apples to oranges comparison of laptops isn’t compelling. Nor am I compelled by your methodology argument, which seems to take issue with testing a hypothesis that phones are a distraction.

thought hitting was better than nothing even when they knew it was net harmful

Once again, we know cellphones are detrimental to learning. This is not a matter of schools failing to adapt to new technology. Tablets, computers, interactive software and more are used. It is about unrestricted cell phone use, which studies have shown hinders learning.

a phone ban in NY caused an increase in overall student obedience and educational productivity, … Of course, this study does directly contradict your educatoronline article.

No it doesn’t. It says that no phones mean better learning. You are missing the forest for the trees.

Crowd dynamics

Lots of research has been done on this, and a small number of people can influence a large group. Look at “wave” studies for more info.

Calling minimum acceptable classroom behavior “picking yourself up by your bootstraps” is absurd. It’s like saying that you can’t expect people to not talk at the theater because that’s just asking too much of people.

It’s like every time a person says “see, this is what happens when you don’t hit children” at every behavior issue. Even though we know that hitting children objectively worsens behavior over doing nothing, but they insist that doing the only thing they know, even if harmful, is better.

But we know children learn better without phones https://www.theeducatoronline.com/k12/news/the-evidence-is-clear-students-learn-better-without-mobile-phones-in-class/276071 You are the person insisting on hitting the child here.

Putting phones in school makes learning harder.

When you have a room of 30 students and 29 of them are complaining about something … point out how unlikely it is that those 29 students are the causal variable.

You are saying 29 out of 30 people can’t be right, which is very wrong. But what you miss is that it’s really 3-4 kids disrupting and the rest going along because it’s easier.

It’s the path of least resistance, and people will jump onto the easy path.

“Personal Responsibility” attitudes just doesn’t work for crowd dynamics,

Except they do. Look at all the examples of Japanese fans cleaning stadiums.

In a crowd most people will follow the norm. If the norm is playing on your phone and not listening, the you have a bad time. It’s not punishing kids because teachers are bad at their jobs, it’s setting a behavioral norm.

Next time you dislike your teacher think about when you got stuck in a group with people who wouldn’t do anything. Now imagine a class full of them. If just one or two more people put in a little effort good things would happen.

What exactly should be done to motivate?

I ask because schools do a lot to motivate but kids often dismiss it as lame or complain about the efforts. It’s very easy to say “motivate kids” but actual ideas aren’t common.

Let me give you an example, everyone has heard “when will we use this in real life?” in math class. The same people asking those questions are the same that groan at word problems. So you have kids complaining that won’t be able to use something in real life, and upset when they have to solve a real life problem. What’s the real complaint the student has? They have to try.

I agree that so much more can be done to make school fun, but it’s not all on the teachers. Students have to be present, participate and willing to leave their comfort zone in order to have better results.

I think the biggest issue isn’t letting kids use a tool, it’s getting kids to do the work.

I recently worked with a bunch of kids in college, all stem majors, who couldn’t Google effectively or do basic math in their heads. It’s not a matter of “don’t let them use a resource” it’s that many people won’t try.

Limiting technology isn’t cruelty, it’s vital for learning many skills. Number sense can’t be taught by a taking a picture and writing an answer.

What would you prefer the school do?

How could they motivate you to actually pay attention in class instead of playing with your phone? Honestly ask yourself if this “addressing motivation” would make geometry more interesting than tiktok.

Mastering? It’s an OS not a skill.

Are really looking down on people because you open the terminal often instead of being able to click something?

I was making over $60k a year managing a small retail store.

It isn’t too hard to break into management of boutique retail shops, but you are basically a rep who doesn’t get overtime and has a few additional responsibilities. A part time job at a big corporation won’t be a living wage, but it’s possible to make a living in retail.

The job really sucks though.

The big difference is the type of job you can get.

If you want to work retail you can make decent money, but you are standing all day, dealing with entitled people and work hours that make it difficult to have a life. If you want a 9-5 better get a degree.

Do you think they dyed all their margaritas black in mourning?

People under the age of 25 tend to be really bad at the Internet. The number of times high schoolers or college kids are mystified by how I’m able to get information quickly from search engines is beyond me.

I’m not surprised they can’t tell what’s real, they can’t search for tiny details like “transmission time to Mars” or “gravity on mercury”.

Brave is chromium.

Fuck Microsoft, switch to Linux

Absolutely. But I wouldn’t hold my breath on companies actually stopping use of MS.

My team recently finished the PDR for an astroid lander, this picture is surprisingly accurate.

Didn’t Microsoft lose a large anti trust court case about this shit for internet explorer?

Yes and no.

MS made Internet explorer uninstallable and made it even if you could install Netscape you couldn’t set it as the default app. Forcing teams to open internet explorer edge is more in line with iPhones and Android. Both phone OSs will let you install different browsers, but opening links from most 1st party apps opens safari or chrome with no real way to change it. It’s one of the worst things about phones and now MS is trying to move Windows that direction.

It’s going to get worse. Once corporations start to adopt edge MS will move to make browser office the only office. Clicking a .doc in edge will redirect to browser word 365. Saving already defaults to the cloud, soon we’ll have “virtual downloads” that save your download to your cloud and you can only meaningfully interact with it via edge.

We need more legislation and regulations allowing software choice for all platforms. We’ve never been allowed to own software, now we can’t even buy a perpetual license. Soon we won’t be allowed to have a copy of software saved on our devices, and files made by that software won’t be allowed on our computers either.

Every hour was obviously hyperbole. It would break often. Normally due to some issue that would pop up, most often drivers.

She did run on unstable and had a fetch for updates automated every evening. Her goal wasn’t a stable OS, but to be at the forefront of testing. She knew no programming, so it meant that she would report bugs and have a box with a giant fan that didn’t run anything most of the time. She made bad choices.

I’m sure stable Debian is stable. I’m sure it’s gotten better in the past 15 years, but the fact my experience with Debian was an unstable mess that was more of a job than a useable system makes me suspicious of the distro.

I had a girlfriend who used Debian back around 2005.

Never have I been around an OS that didn’t work as often as Debian. It wouldn’t crash, but need to be updated or something every hour. It was a full time job keeping it running for her.