.world hasn’t defederated from either of these two instances. They’ve blocked .world users from accessing those 3 communities from .world. You, as a .world user can still access any community across those 2 instances, aside from the 3 mentioned. Any users on those instances can still access .world communities.

Not sa far as I know.

Who’s that?

I dunno man, when it comes right down to it, who are any of us really? Y’know?

I’m not saying they are or aren’t. I’m simply saying that we all know the big media companies go after people at the drop of a hat. They recently tried to get reddit to expose the identities of people discussing piracy over there. To their credit reddit told them no and defended themselves legally. And that’s the issue. The media companies can accuse anyone of anything if it even slightly smells like piracy and the target has to legally defend themselves. This is fine if you’re a multibillion valued company. Not so fine if you’re just some guy who just wanted to run a Lemmy instance out of his own pocket.

I don’t know about you but engaging a lawyer and going to court to defend myself would be a massive financial drain. And to risk that on simply the hope that a court might find in my favour is far too big of a risk. Then add on all the unwanted public exposure, the internet notoriety etc. Fuck that.

That’s a bit naive, knowing what we know about the sharks that run the large media corporations. For your average instance owner, it’s not a question of being found not liable, it’s the fact that you as an ordinary guy with an ordinary life and an ordinary income suddenly have to defend yourself legally with all the exposure and expense that entails, from day one.

Nothing. It’s just 3 communities on dbzero that are blocked and as far as I know, they’re only blocked on .world. There’s no defederation so you as a user signed up to dbzero can still participate in any .world community and any .world user can still interact with communities on dbzero apart from the three named.

Might be worth remembering here that Lemmy instances, including .world are hosted by regular people. Not massive multinational companies worth billions who can engage the best legal talent around.

If Hollywood comes after a Lemmy instance, Holywood have a huge legal team and endless money. The Lemmy instance has some guy. They could quite literally destroy a persons life. With that in mind, I don’t blame any instance owners for erring on the side of taking a stance that won’t put them in the legal firing line.

American liberals would be Tories in the UK.

I think between those 5, there’s not a country on the planet that hasn’t been infiltrated.

Both to the instance I’m on, because hosting and bandwidth costs money and to the Lemmy software devs because I’d like them to be able to concentrate on developing Lemmy.

Don’t know about the other 2 but .world has been enduring an on/off ddos attack for over a week, then yesterday had a non ddos related db issue.

It’s my absolute favourite book series ever. I kept putting it off and putting it off as I thought - Napoleonic Wars, sailing ships, nah - but they blew me away from book 1.

There are solid rumours that a script is being written to launch the series as a movie universe. To be honest though, there’s so much detail in each book I think each book would work better as a TV season.

Master & Commander.

You really just aren’t interested in boxing with anything but your own shadow, huh?

By quoting exactly what you said and exactly what I said I’m shadow boxing? OK.

You’ve got all these assertions and things I’ve tasked you with doing, yet I never did and clearly indicated so in my previous post.

So you didn’t ask me to justify OP’s post? And you didn’t expect a response from me when you talked about FOSS purists lecturing Sync users? If not, why on Earth did you even mention it?

If you can just make it look like I said that stuff. Right?

The trouble is, you did say that stuff. I’ve quoted you (and myself) directly. Now, if I’ve misunderstood either your words or the intent of your words, feel free to explain to me exactly where I’ve gone wrong and if I am wrong, I’ll gladly and happily apologise.

I’ve also directly answered your request about the usage of the word ‘infantile’ but I see you’ve chosen to not see that. I can understand that.

Let me make a list of things that would be “stupid” to take from this.

That you are answerable for what others have said.

Then why did you ask me to justify OP’s post?

That you are among those that were prodding Sync users.

Then why did you try and make me answerable for what other people were saying?

Not whatever the fuck direction that was that you just tried to take it in.

It’s pretty simple. You said:

“because of the sync mention by the OP, there is a preponderance of lecturing coming from the FOSS purist community. It is infantile to expect no response to that”

And clearly expected me to have some sort of ownership of, or participation in, that lecturing. I then pointed out to you that I didn’t believe I had either but if you could find an example of me doing so I’d be happy to talk about it.

Feel free to tell me why my paraphrasing was inaccurate

Because it’s not what I said. I said:

“You’re absolutely correct. Anyone can enjoy any app they like and either pay for it or not…But coming into a thread about ways to ensure Lemmy gets the support it needs to develop and instances get the support they need to keep going to tell everyone how much you love your app is infantile.”

I’m not sure saying someone(s) coming into a thread which is nothing to do with Sync as a piece of software and proceeding to hijack it to be about Sync is infantile behaviour is directly equivalent to ‘standing up for yourself is infantile’. They weren’t standing up for themselves, they’d made an error in understanding what the thread was about and when informed what it was about got annoyed and asked why they ‘couldn’t just use what we want’ or ‘why do you care?’ when as far as I can tell nobody (certainly not me) told them they couldn’t use whatever app they wanted to, its simply not what this thread was about.

I have to assume you’re referring to things I’ve said as it would be pretty stupid to expect me to be answerable for things other people have said.

So, you let me know where I’ve made any comments in the entire thread that are based on Sync being a for-profit app and my lectures about the desirability of FOSS purism and I’ll be happy to talk about them.

Here’s what OP said:

“With all this talk about Sync pricing…I think now is a great time to remind everyone, like sync’s developer, Lemmy’s developers need to be paid too! The amount of time all the devs put into making lemmy exist, in my opinion, should be worth some of your money. If you can afford it, donating to the people who develop lemmy and/or the people keeping your home instance up will accelerate the incredible growth of lemmy!”

How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that that is in any way calling Sync users out?

I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. I’m not being evasive or dismissive, I genuinely have absolutely no clue what you’re talking about.