Every time I hear this observation, I automatically hear Jim Carrey’s voice in my head saying “It’s dead people laughing! Those people are dead!”

I guess he said it in the 1999 movie Man On The Moon and the line has somehow been permanently lodged in the back of my brain for the last 25 years

It means the overall death rate in the sample group was decreased substantially. The number of people who survived because they didn’t get lung cancer or blood clots was so large that it had a noticeable impact on the number of total survivors, even when you include death by bus. This is a useful measure for a couple of reasons. One, it accounts for the prevalence of the disease being prevented - cutting all pork from your diet prevents 100% of deaths by trichinosis, which accounts for like 0.00001% of deaths from all causes (completely made up numbers and example, without consulting any sources). Two, it could account for net change in survival, for a treatment or behavior that has both positive and negative effects - giving radiation therapy indiscriminately to everyone with any kind of lump might decrease rate of dying from breast cancer, but increase death “from all causes” because it causes more problems than it solves.

I guess an additional way it might be useful is if we don’t yet have data on the exact mechanisms by which the treatment helps or what exactly its preventing - all we know is that we gave group A the treatment and not group B, and after 20 years there were a lot more people alive in group A, but we haven’t yet found a pattern in which causes of death were most affected and how.

She looks great. And powerful.

you mean jumping the stark

Aha, thanks! I guess that concludes this thread, as I don’t really expect to get a dev chiming in explaining why.

It’s not my preferred way of handling it but I don’t have the energy to make a fuss. I guess if I click a link that needs to be http, I’ll copy it to a browser, and if I post one I’ll remind others to do the same. Probably won’t come up often enough to care about.

At least you’ve satisfied my curiosity as to what was going on 😀

Edit: I was repeatedly told while trying to post this comment that the request timeout had expired. When the error stopped appearing, I had posted 4 copies of this message. I have deleted them but I apologize if they still spam your inbox as [deleted] or something.

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Thanks for looking into this thoroughly, and for correctly noting what’s causing the situation with my specific example.

I contacted Two9A about his weird configuration before I made my original post, but have yet to get a reply from them. The specific example of xkcdsw is a separate issue unrelated to jerboa.

My main question was what is causing http links opened on lemmy through jerboa to redirect to https links - whether that is being done by the app or the instance or what. If it is the intended behavior of the jerboa app, I’m curious as to why it doesn’t leave the protocol up to the commenter.

Did you click the links before telling me that’s not how it works though? Other people are reporting the same result. I also get the same result on both my phone and desktop. Seems like two clicks would be less trouble than finding sources to back up a condescending and inaccurate response.

Here is some information supporting the fact that URLs can work that way (although the two links you quoted but did not click on from my original post already demonstrate that): https://superuser.com/questions/792202/different-website-at-https-then-at-http

Edit: bear in mind that to reproduce the behavior, you might need to type the http into your browser manually if you are using jerboa.

Yeah, I suspect it’s a jerboa problem. I’ve posted about it on the jerboa community now.

Edit: Confirmed. Jerboa’s source code uses a plugin to force all links to be opened as https.

Relevant xkcdsw (the first link in the comment): https://www.reddit.com/r/xkcd/comments/2wx9ws/today_i_discovered_xkcdsw/covb60y/

Now, why the hell would I link to a reddit comment instead of directly to the comic? Because for some reason, xkcdsw links on lemmy turn into links to a dodgy crypto site: http://xkcdsw.com/687

No idea why this happens - I remember this happening a few months back and I assumed that somehow xkcdsw had gotten hacked in between me fetching the link and other people replying, but just now I discovered that it works fine as long as you’re not following the link from my lemmy comment. Also, judging by replies the last time it happened, the direct link from lemmy does still work for some people. I assumed those people on the previous thread got in before the site got hacked, but now I wonder if it’s instance-specific. Is my instance just redirecting certain links to a crypto site for some reason? Or my app (jerboa)?

For those not seeing the redirect, the address bar claims it’s still xkcdsw, but the content appears to be from dogecoinaverage

The actual xkcdsw is just a shitpost, barely worth the two words and one link in my original comment, but the redirect is weird.

Edit: the fact that the link in the reddit comment works even via jerboa’s internal browser makes me think it’s the instance.

Edit 2: previous occurrence of this: https://lemmy.ml/comment/5379893 - it doesn’t seem to be instance-based, as someone on Feddit.de saw the redirect, but someone else on my instance did not

Edit 3: mystery solved(ish) - lemmy is silently changing the http to https (for some reason), which results in a different site (for some reason). I’ve alerted the xkcdsw owner to the problem via mastodon.

Edit 4: this is gonna look really confusing now that two9a has fixed the xkcdsw https situation. Like “what is this comment even talking about?” Trust me, it made sense up until about 10 minutes ago. Oh, also I confirmed that jerboa is the what changes all http links to https.

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I see a lot of cages there - is Scootaloo your only pet that can’t fly?

After a bit of googling I was able to confirm that it is indeed instance-based.

Thanks. I use jerboa, and I see that we’re on different instances too. I’ll look into it :)

Edit: it’s the instance. Tbh I probably could have figured this out a long time ago just didn’t even know to look into it until I saw someone that seemed to be able to see uncensored words.

Interesting. I could guess that “removed” might be ableist or sexist, but the fact that you were able to pick correctly and confidently suggests it’s not censored for you. Is this specific to my client or instance? Tbh seeing “removed” (in italics) everywhere is one of the things that has annoyed me about using lemmy, and I’d turn it off if I knew how. Not that I’m in favor of slurs, I’d just like to be able to see what people are actually saying and judge them myself.

I have a fold3 as well, personally have found the battery life to be fine. Maybe because my previous phone was 6 years old when I switched so I had low standards for battery. Although, I definitely don’t need to charge 3 times a day.

If nobody else had said fold3, I was gonna post: I have a fold3 and I love it. I can see how people could see it as a dumb gimmick, but for me it can legitimately function as my main portable media device (ebooks, internet, keeping notes, video content, sudoku, emulated games if I attach a controller, showing people pictures, etc) in a way that a regular phone would feel way too cramped for, while also just fitting in my pocket so I can take it everywhere without a second thought - which would be a much bigger pain with a regular tablet. It’s just really nice having a full-sized book in my jeans pocket in a waiting room, as a painless part of my “everyday carry”.

Downside (for me) is people sometimes see me fold/unfold it and want to start a conversation about how weird it is, when I’m an extreme introvert and just wanted some silent device time. I guess this might be an upside for extroverts, but then they might be less interested in being glued to a large pocket-screen in the first place.

Google glass wasn’t AR though, it was just a display strapped to some glasses. It didn’t do 3D or head tracking or anything.

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