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Well, it’s a list of "well maintained/moderated servers

Any server that federates with threads, a product of Meta a company known for their low quality moderation and lack of ethics, is clearly not a well maintained/moderated one.

It’s not a new rule. The admin is just applying the sites rules as they are, instead of making exception for threads as many of the techbro admins that are getting their servers excluded have been doing.

I think part of the issue with Ello was that they sell themselves as non-corporative social media while maintaining two of the most important characteristics of corporative social media:

• Centralisation and lack of federation
• Being closed-source

The story would have gone completely different if they

• Had made it open-source allowing users to contribute to the project, both as devs and through donations.

• Added decentralisation and federation, allowing others to make their own Ello servers. This could have taken a lot of weight (financial and otherwise) from the developers/founders. Users cost money. Dividing the user base within different servers, pay by and moderated by different people means dividing the costs.

I never used brave. I wasn’t interested in it since I learned it was chromium and all the crypto stuff.

You can’t follow tags (something that should be added), but you can add them to Antennas

Why is mastodon the worse one?

Lack of essential features and the toxicity within it servers.

It was meant to be federated, privacy friendly, self-hosted, less toxic twitter alternative for small communities

1- I didn’t say it had to be a twitter clone. What I said is that some people coming from Twitter that weren’t convinced by Mastodon, may be could have find other microblogging more adequate for their needs and usage. Each microblogging platform has its personality and usability, and Mastodon wasn’t for them.

The problem is when people are told that there’s nothing beyond Mastodon (regarding microblogging) on the fediverse, so they end up running away from the fediverse, after not finding a home on Mastodon.

2- It failed at being less toxic.

Witch hunts over petty arguments, negative reaction to newcomers not knowing how things work, racism that gets minimalised as “not as bad” by big part of the user base.

The fact that it doesn’t have quote posting because it “allows for toxic behaviour”, when other platforms have it and say toxicity is almost non-existant in using that feature, it’s in itself a red flag.

No, not really. Firefish is a microblogging platform. Kbin is a link aggregation and topic discussion platform, with a wonky attempt at microblogging.

I wouldn’t call it an alternative to Mastodon or Twitter either, because Firefish has features that neither of them have. The only Microblogging platform it could be seen as an alternative to, now that it has gone beyond being just a fork, is Misskey.

People tend to compare Firefish and Misskey more to Tumblr, but they still have things that either were inspired by other microblogging platforms (twitter, included), or that are unique to them. So they aren’t fully “Tumblr alternatives” either.

Why stick to the worse one, though?

The point of federation is that you can create community with people all over it, no matter what software the server they joined is running.

Mastodon being too big to the point that 90% of it users things it’s the whole fediverse is not positive nor contributes to create an stable community. Many people coming from twitter run from the fediverse, because they’re told there’s nothing other than mastodon, which they find hard to use, lacking and extremely toxic.

Misskey, Firefish, Akkoma, GoToSocial, Microblogpub, etc give people other options that may fit their need for/usage of a microblogging platform better than mastodon does, as each (including Mastodon and each of its forks) has it’s own “profile”

1- Never join the official instances. They always are too big that are almost impossible to moderate.

2- In which timeline did you see those comments? Because if it was global, it’s possible these are unknown servers the admins aren’t aware of. (The trending section is global)

Here a better explanation from the Misskey (from where Firefish took this feature) official page

I haven’t seen any Misskey or Firefish admin commenting negatively about the existence of the drive feature itself

Cool things on Firefish/clackey, that Mastodon and most of it forks don’t have:

• Quote notes (Misskey and Akkoma, a fork of Pleroma, also have them)

• Antennas. They allow you to add words, tags and accounts to lists and create parallel timelines that you can see whenever you want, without having to follow this accounts

• You can create personalized timelines for certain accounts to appear in.

• It has a drive section where you can upload files.

• Channels. This are public local group that the members of a server can create, join and interact within.

• Private chat groups. Local only.

• Emoji reactions

• Clips. These are collections of notes (“note” is the name post receive in Misskey and Firefish)

You can create multiple clips and manage them by giving a name and description to each. You can also choose to make your clips public to make them available to other users.

• You can create custom web pages. For now they don’t federate.

• Customisable (by admin) character limit.

I don’t know how I feel about the new name, but I’m curious to see what new features come with the rebranding.

Calckey/Firefish is by far my favourite microblogging platform. It has a greater number of features than mastodon, and I personally find it more inviting.

What I wanna know is, with it being its own thing now (rather than a fork of misskey), while it still be supported by Misskey apps, like MilkTea?

I didn’t even know Evernote was still a think. I thought it had died years ago

Luckily ActivityPub it’s not the only federated protocol…

Whatsapp is so big here that it’s not just that everyone uses it, you are practically require, forced, to use Whatsapp.

I hate whatsapp, but they require it at the university if I want to be informed. Doctor appointments are also. via whatsapp.

I have an email that I specifically use for the fediverse. I wasn’t asked to give email here, but otherwise it would have been hard to know when and whether my join in request was approved or not.

I completely agree. I’d add that. in general I wouldn’t put any type of personal information on the internet, no social media site, is really private.

Exactly.

That with the addition that the function of thread-like social media is being a place to discuss topic and share information/knowledge. So content needs to be kept even if the account that posted it exist no more. The contain remaining when the account gets deleted is a feature, because otherwise important information could be lost.

Content deletion should be an option, but the content remaining if you delete your account its a needed feature for this type of platform

The illusion of Privacy is Mastodon (or social media in general)

There’s a reason why when you go to “private mentions” on Mastodon, this appears:

While yes, we should be able to delete our content if we want, but it’s a bit naive to think there could be true privacy in any decentralised social media platform.

There’s a reason why one of the think people tell you when you come to the fediverse is not to share personal and sensible information.

The only decentralised social media that has some level of privacy is Matrix, and that’s why it has it’s own protocol and only federates within/between its own servers.

Funny the thing about the whole short essay thing, because I basically only wrote “I wanna try Lemmy and I want an active instance where I can be active in”

Beehaw didn’t left the fediverse, it defederated from two Lemmy instances over the more than 20000 that exist in all the fediverse. The number of instances that Beehaw defederates from (which, of course, is bigger than two, as there are intances that are globally defederated) is tiny in comparison with the size of the whole ActibityPub -based fediverse.

Make sure you understand how the fediverse work before resorting to lying.

Eh?