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Cake day: July 7th, 2023

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  • Most of them have part time jobs by that point… have quit their clubs to make time for cram school, and need to provide choices for not only their followup education but their desired trade. So they’re isolated during a time of extreme stress… and are exhausted.

    Oh and their population is cratering and the economy is headed for hyperinflation… which means more work for ‘less’ pay in a country that has people literally die of overwork.

    Honestly? It’s astounding how much those kids can absorb and keep on going.








  • Show me a study that shows any human or animal benefits in anyway from drinking bleach.

    There are plenty of papers out there which have supported incorrect and dangerous claims. I trust you are capable of getting the parallel I was drawing without derailing the conversation.

    However, there does exist a spectrum of studies both supporting and attacking…

    Yes this is how scientific academia works. It is also constantly flooded with bad science and bad faith research from focus groups pushing agendas. Let’s perhaps allow research to fully mature before committing to forcing your life choice on another organism, yeah?

    From my understanding there was a nuanced discussion including risks and acknowledging that whole food diets are impossible for cats.

    Nuanced discussion is most certainly not what that thread, nor this one are littered with.

    Either people are reacting with emotion far more than I expected, or people are confusing whole food plant based with “no meat products in it”, which of course are two entirely different sets of food.

    Nobody is telling a vegan they cannot adhere their diet to their choice. The reason people are reacting is because vegans are pushing their life choice onto an animal they willingly adopted knowing it’s dietary needs: simply because it makes them feel better. That is assanine and absolutely should be concerning to anyone.


  • Why are you so quick to move people into the bad vegan category?

    Considering your borderline unhinged responses throughout this thread… I think that should be self answering.

    Sounds like a lot of people are just using this to confirm their belief that vegans are crazy…

    See above.

    …and they should continue eating meat without a care.

    Nobody takes issue with vegetarians, paleo, or any of the innumerable other dietary choices… why do you suppose that is?

    Why are you suggesting that people who choose to have a different diet than your preference need to change at all? I personally could care less what you choose to eat- that’s your choice… however:

    I think I get it. If its possible a cat could be healthy and vegan, then humans have no excuse left do they.

    When you are responsible for a dependant, be that a child or a pet, it is your responsibility to care for them properly. If you think you should beat a child: someone should stop you.

    Onus probandi.. We have 100s of years of evidence that cats and their kin eat meat and will become ill and die without it. The fact that a “strictly vegan” diet needs to resort to synthetics to arrive at “maybe good enough” because those nutrients are not available from your diets sources says enough. Many other vegans have made much more reasonable statements throughout this thread that don’t rely on emerging research to support their decision to force their life choice on other animals.

    Self preservation at its finest.

    Exactly what are we preserving here… or are you just adding a quip that you think will elevate your stance?