• kameecoding@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I mean, Iron man was like literally the first movie in the MCU (discounting that Hulk movie), it also literally started the trope of Bad Guy has literally the same skillset/power as the good guy that was replicated a bunch of times.

    GotG, and Thor: Ragnarok are the only movies that are unique and carried by their directors.

    Love and thunder is a dumpster fire.

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      1 year ago

      I think bad guy having the same skillset is really just a superhero trope.

      • Flash vs Zoom
      • Green vs Yellow Lantern
      • Spidey vs Venom
      • Aquaman vs Black Manta
      • Wonder woman vs Ares
      • Green Arrow vs Dark Archer

      I listed DC heroes primarily to show it isn’t just a Marvel thing. But all of these arch enemies are basically evil duplicates of the hero.

      I think the trope largely stems from a “How do you defeat someone who is as powerful/strong as you” kinda thing.

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          1 year ago

          Well it’d be the ratio we care about, but let’s see (should only count first movie to simplify) and just saying yes if villian has same powers.

          Marvel:

          • Ironman - yes
          • Cap - yes
          • Thor - no
          • Hulk (if you count 2008 film) - yes
          • Guardians - pass (ensemble so kinda hard to say)
          • Antman - yes
          • Doctor Strange - yes
          • Spiderman - no
          • Black Panther - yes
          • Cpt Marvel - No/maybe

          DC:

          • Superman - yes (cause this iteration started with Zod, even if lex Luther is real arch enemy)
          • Batman - pass (too many reboots and maybe we count anyone cause he has no powers)
          • Wonder woman - yes
          • Flash - yes
          • Aquaman - yes (maybe BlackManta is different enough, but I’m counting it)
          • Bluebeetle - yes
          • Shazam - no

          So 6/10 vs 4/7 or 60% for marvel vs 57% for DC. So surprisingly around the same.

          Edited to fix formatting

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            1 year ago

            You can’t not count batman, it’s a no.

            So is Aquaman.

            And so is Wonder Woman, not sure how you can say Ares has the same skillset as WW.

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      1 year ago

      Ah I think Thor Ragnarok was what I meant, the Taika Waititi directed movie