As an owner of children
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TIL about the term “Parent”.
OP, 2023.
Sidenote: if you’re pretending shit for internet points, at least try for 10 seconds to put yourself in the shoes of the person you’re pretending to be…
Give them a break, they haven’t slept in weeks/months/years
Yes, I traded an iPod for them
Rothbard moment
Self reporting here.
Yeah, I can’t even begin to address how much is wrong with that.
I know, right? Why would you willingly keep a child? Just put it away or put it down.
Or put it on eBay
c/JesusChristLemmy
How anybody flies without noise-canceling headphones these days is beyond me.
I just had a 9 hour flight where both bathrooms were plugged and aisles were completely covered in puke because this kid got so sick, and refused to throw up into a bag. Every time he got sick he ran from his mom and threw up somewhere else on the plane
Left flight with puke on my backpack and shoes. Whole back of the plane was vomiting throughout the flight due to the smell. Nobody could use the bathrooms for the last 3 hours of the flight
My noise cancelling headphones were not effective
Dude. How did the fucking marshals not step in? Allowing anyone, child or not, to repeatedly spread bio hazard on other passengers is not ok. One time? Fine, kids are gross and things happen. Repeatedly? That kid is a terrorist.
Canada to Germany flight. Not much can be done while you are flying over Greenland.
The kid was mentally ill. I blame the mother. She tried to wash a blanket or something in the sink, clogging the entire plane. People were pissing into bottles
Surprised this didn’t make the news really. It barely sounds like a true story
Believe it or not but not everyone is from the US. Flight marshals are mainly a US thing
Literal nightmare fuel
Yeah I’ve always had pre flight anxiety, all the “what ifs” going through my head
I actually didn’t think it could ever be so bad. Forever scared to fly ever again…
Really though this is probably the worst experience you’ll ever have on a plane.
Lol I’d have paid good money to see that.
Yeah I know it barely even sounds like a true story, but it really happened
Vancouver to Frankfurt via condor, Aug 3.
Anyone here remember the scene from team America where he vomits endlessly? It was sort of like this. The kid probably lost 50 lbs that flight
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I’m taller than average so it already sucks but last year I had three flights IN A ROW where I got placed behind somebody who was obsessed with leaning back in their seat. Like they’d lean back as much as the seat would let them which was already painful but then they’d try and push it more and more and jump back into the seat which was only hurting my knees more. One was 6 hours and I literally could not sleep 1 second because of the pain. three DIFFERENT people did this! Noise cancelling headphones did not help.
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Im gagging just thinking about it. Ok, i will forever bring a facemask plus aromatic salts with me everytime i do an intercontinental flight!
Overpriced. And then you need them for every member of the family :)
And they also might not work well enough
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I don’t get the rage that some of these comments have from seeing this meme.
It doesn’t say that anyone actually did or said anything, just that their expression dropped after seeing an infant board a plane.
People are allowed to be disappointed. I mean, I don’t think that most parents actually love hearing screaming and/or crying either. Is a (probably) brief facial expression seriously the same as hating all children, or wishing for them to dissapear to some of you guys? Jeez Louise.
I mean, normally I wouldn’t give a hoot either way. Kids on the plane, no kids on the plane, whatever. If I had a migraine that day though, yeah, I wouldn’t be thrilled. I wouldn’t be upset at anyone for the noise in the slightest, but I also wouldn’t be joyful about it.
Are we certain that that’s the actual contect of the picture, or did someone just say it was? Is this the accurate, OG text on the picture? Did any one of those people actually say or do anything beyond a facial expression when seeing very small children board the plane?
Some of you guys need to take a deep breath and just relax. I’m referring to both extremes with this.
It’s because they themselves have kids lol
and some people in these comments seem to fail to make the distinction between being childfree and an antinatalist
For real. Ill never understand when people are like “having children is the best thing you can do”. Like hell nah!
Makes me think that a lot of these people are pissed off that those who can’t afford or just don’t give a shit about being sentenced to parenthood for life won’t have anyone to exploit when their kids grow up. Also misery loves company. People get really angry when they realize their life didn’t have to end that way and that they actually had a choice so to validate their mistakes they shame and try to push others who didn’t into the same so they can say “there, you see? There really isn’t any other choice”
Hard disagree. Kill all the children!
If pets can travel in the cargo hold hopped up on benzos and ketamine, why can’t babies? Or me?
Be my guest
I had a man in his 60s tell me “if you board a flight without noise canceling headphones in 2023, that’s on you.”
We were flying to Italy (from US) with our 5 month old to visit my Aunt one last time before she passed away a few months later. Baby cried here and there for a total of maybe 1.5 out of the 9 hours. We felt so guilty but people were incredibly nice at the end when we apologized for disturbing their flight.
She’s a pretty good flyer overall but will throw her occasional 5 minute fits. I think about that man’s joke after working our asses off to calm her down.
I don’t know what kind of noise-cancelling headphones he has but mine wouldn’t help against crying - they reduce the volume of buzzes, humms, and other background noises, but I can definitely still hear shrieks quite well.
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Interesting. Not saying you’re wrong because, sure, I can hear some crying with mine too but with music or a podcast playing its a distant background noise that my brain just kind of ignores, I guess. But I like to do work on planes so now I’m wondering if I just got used to tuning it out when I’m zoned in. I’m also one of those weirdos that can sleep on planes. So… I Might be in a small group of outliers on this one.
Being angry at babies is what pathetic people do.they cant do much about their situation.
Its on their parents but… as you say… sometimes you just gotta fly. With the kid.
Yeah, noise cancelling headphones delete the mechanical noise and the standard level of chatter. Screaming is left in that void to come right on through and into your brain. They don’t block angry baby screams, they make them stand out.
Anybody that complains about children and babies can go fuck themselves. You shouldn’t have to feel guilty for being a parent.
Yes you should. That child is going to face pretty bad economic and climate times. The likelihood of them dying from climate change or starvation is going up. And because of covid damaging immune systems, dying of the increasing numbers of illnesses running around. Not to mention the return of once defeated diseases due to anti-vax movements.
They chose to bring a kid into a world of misery because they were needy, or they thought it would be cute, or whatever. Selfish reasons. That’s who should go f themselves.
You should try getting out of the house.
You’re assumption that I don’t is in error.
The likelihood of each of us dying goes up every day we wake up. So by your logic we might as well just all kill ourselves now and get it over with? As much as I agree with your list of real concerns, your suggesting we should put an end to human kind altogether because life is getting harder each generation?
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Whatever, man. You’re going to do or say whatever.
Hahaha bro. Go touch grass.
While we still can.
Yes, I should hole myself in my house because I could potentially get hit by a car tomorrow. That’s what your reasoning sounds like.
Look, yes, the world is grim and the climate is changing, but why shouldn’t I instill the harsh realities of this world in my children so that they can grow up and cope and deal with this stuff. This sort of stuff is part of upbringing that should be instilled in our children so that they don’t grow up and make those mistakes.
Even more importantly, we should all lead by example and show them, by example, by being more active in the causes we care about enough to pursue so that life is more meaningful than mere existence.
This is how I was raised, and that’s how I intend to raise my children instead of cowering away from it and choosing not to have children which seems like the easy way out and really, is pretty pathetic.
So yes, people can go fuck themselves if they can’t deal with crying children. :-)
Justify it however you want. You’re a terrible person who like hurting your child and annoying everyone. Got it.
Considering your cowardly outlook on life, your words don’t hold any weight.
Maintaining the status quo is what keeps humanity from progressing. Slavery was acceptable and still is in many places, except for where the status quo was challenged. Having kids should no longer be the status quo and it won’t be long until civil rights catch up to the abusive nature of being created without consent.
Except it’s a choice.
YES
This is one of those things I see people complain about everyone complaining. Like vegans or CrossFit people. I’ve met far more people complaining about complaints than actual incidents.
Most of us get it. It’s kids. I’ve seen obviously not emotional support animals brought in by asshats. Kids aren’t my concern.
FYI, emotional support animals aren’t protected on flights any more than other animals on flights, meaning they have to stay in a crate/kennel.
Only service animals can be outside of the carrier and there’s extra paperwork associated with that.
I’m thankful that my kids fly well, and always have. We flew with them at ~15 months with no issues.
I’ve always heard the complaints about screaming infants and whatnot…but I’ve never seen it. Granted, I don’t fly too often (and less so more recently), but I’ve never had the “classic” kid crying through the entire flight. It just doesn’t happen as often as people think. I’m sure when it does happen that it’s pretty f’n annoying, though.
I have. It’s pretty unpleasant, but you put your headphones on and listen to something. These people that assume there is some policy that flights have to be as quiet as a church are beyond me.
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Kids these days (Yes, I said that unironically) can’t be assed to deal with any amount of discomfort. They’ve had a childhood of screens put in front of them so they don’t have to deal with boredom and other shit that just ruins a person’s ability to operate in society.
Grow the fuck up and deal with it.
EDIT: So apparently people are reading this like I’m talking about the crying babies. I’m talking about the ridiculous, pseudo-child-free adults who can’t believe a baby might have trouble while flying and god forbid they should hear it cry.
FYI the younger ones are screaming because of pain from the inner ear air pressure changes that they don’t know how to prevent.
JFC are people really understanding my take as blaming the fucking babies? The whole “kids these days” was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the adults in the plane complaining about the babies.
nah, lad, people are most likely understanding exactly what ya meant and they’re downvoting because of that. also the ‘pseudo-childfree’ mention might also be bothersome to some, what with it suggesting said lifestyle might be just a phase and thus claiming to have the absolute truth and such things. pretty sure parents would downvote a childfree person for suggesting a pseudo-parent notion.
but I’m 2 ales and a barleywine in already, so YMMV
this thread is entertaining though, for what it’s worth. I just want to see the fuckcarspeople get involved here as well, 'cause it’s getting kind of repetitive
why isn’t there a fuckplanes community, I wonder? I mean they still use leaded fuel and are probably making us all stupider and more violent and stuff
Maybe go start c/fuck_everything?
also the ‘pseudo-childfree’ mention might also be bothersome to some, what with it suggesting said lifestyle might be just a phase
That was not my intention. I don’t consider it a phase and I don’t think everyone needs to be a parent. I just got a very c\fuck_kids vibe from the whole thing. I’m sure I could have said it better, but… eh.
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They’re just supposed to grow up and deal with that?
Literally yes. I’m sure the process might be different for each person, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask that people learn to deal with the world around them instead of expecting the world to bend to their complaints at every discomfort. It won’t.
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I am putting it on the adults complaining about crying kids on planes or whatever other little thing that gets under their skin.
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Not long ago I heard someone on the radio get very angry over kids playing ball hockey on their own street and in the same breath will complain that kids don’t go outside enough so yes I 100% agree with you people expect the world to bend for them when it’s inconvenient for them they are less of an adult then these kids crying on a plane smh
Why not make an airline for people with kids and then they could deck the inside of the plane out to make it fun for kids complete with a flying tube sized playground, maybe a mini arcade, and definitely a ball pit. The pilots could even be those creepy ass animatronic creatures from Chuck-E-Cheese.
That would make people happy which is the opposite of what the airline industry wants to have happen.
Care to elaborate? Genuinely curious
That’s a great prompt for a movie. Where the kids cause chaos and overrun a plane.
“I have had it with this motherfuckin kids in this motherfucking plane”
- Samuel L. Jackson
I like where this is going. We just gotta wait for the Hollywood c-suit to start paying their writers again…
“Five hours at freddys plane” revealed.
They could also make every second row smaller child’s seats and put them closer together to fit more people and children in the plane. Bonus: the parents can use the top of the kiddie seats as a footrest.
This thread is goddamned train wreck. If you need to fly with young children, buy a big bag of those el cheapo foam ear plugs and pass them out to whomever wants some.
I don’t have kids, and I have sensory issues that make baby crying noises physically painful, but I get it. Sometimes you need to take your tiny human places, and I just have to deal. It’s a part of life.
Or a big bag to put the kids in and stuff em in the luggage compartment.
“People should abuse their children so that other passengers are more comfortable.”
That’s literally your suggestion
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No, I’m saying children should count as luggage.
Ear plugs always fall out, don’t work properly and feel uncomfortable for me
I had that problem until I switched to smaller earplugs.
You can also try over-the-ear hearing protection style gear
I have a dysfunctional baby. We took an 8 month old on a plane to Japan because of a family tragedy and she freaking got excited when we hit turbulence and when we landed. Five other babies lost their shit but my kids all giggling.
Actually, she also lost her shit in a literal way, Jesus fucking Christ the amount of poop that came out after the pressure change or someone. Ain’t nobody talks about that but all babies shit their pants at landing— pretty sure.
Get her a dirt bike and a ramp. You may have a future stunt woman on your hands.
This ass taking weird selfies in his first class seat looks so entitled
not gonna lie that guy has an incredibly punchable face
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there are quite a few people that have faces that just have a “punch me” written on them. he is one. I am not a violent person
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I’m gonna be that guy in about a week, kid is 6 months. Any seasoned parents got good tips? It’s not a long flight at least, only 2h.
Edit: Thank you all, I read every one of your replies. Flight goes at 6am, but we booked a night at the airport hotel so we just have to walk across the street. Baby will be in a carrier and get the bottle during takeoff/landing. Fingers crossed.
Since Roe v Wade has been overturned, I’m all out of ideas
I think most people will give you credit for trying. Parents get it, non-parents who are non-assholes will also have some level of tolerance as long as it looks like you’re doing your best to keep the child calm and quiet.
Shit happens. Kids are unpredictable.
You can also try a baby dose of benadryl to knock them out just before takeoff.
Googling your benadryl solution results in what I can only describe as the Internet desperately yelling at me to NOT DO THAT
The specific search terms being “benadryl to make baby sleep”, resulting in the Office of the Child Advocate Connecticut Child Fatality Review Panel’s writing in all-caps
“CAREGIVERS SHOULD NEVER USE BENADRYL OR OTHER ANTIHISTAMINES IN ORDER TO GET THEIR INFANTS TO BE QUIET OR TO SLEEP. ANTIHISTAMINES LIKE BENADRYL SHOULD ONLY BE USED WHEN PRESCRIBED BY A LICENSED MEDICAL PROVIDER.”
Try googling infants or children’s Benedryl. Definitely never give your kids regular adult meds. But the infant/child options should be okay.
should be okay … administered by a parent at will?
IMO, yes. As long as you’re following the label instructions. Otherwise, it shouldn’t be offered OTC. Also, as long as your child has no health conditions that may cause unwanted side effects. Your child should be getting regular check ups so as a parent, you should have an understanding of what is or isn’t okay for your child.
I’ve given my kids OTC meds without consulting their doctor first. I just read the label and gave them the recommended dosage. Sadly, they’re still kicking (jk jk, I love my kids lmao).
To avoid the screaming ear popping, have them eat some baby food, or those teething crackers. The sucking and chewing should help pop their ears.
The kids are the only ones on the plane who are going home with you
Child free by choice person here, though not the child hating kind.
At the end of the day, do your best. Your kid is all that matters. Focus on comfort, stuff to help with popped ears, and other soothing things that can help your baby sleep.
When we flew for the first time (also short flight, baby was ~11 months) we had her in a carrier (ergobaby) and she fell asleep. I don’t know if you planned on booking an extra seat or not, we didn’t since it was a very small plane and there were no 3 seats in a row and also we didn’t come by car (so bringing an extra maxi cosi would have been a nuicance). If you don’t, you get a kind of extra seat belt to attach to your seat belt so the baby sits on your lap. What surprised us is that they didn’t force us to take her out of the ergobaby but looked at us, basically saying “noiccce” with their eyes, and let us just sit like this. It was insanely more comfortable and actuallt more secure than with that seatseatbeltbelt consturction. I guess they realized this, I mean the baby is completely strapped to my body. Anyway, I was very grateful that it turned out there was no policy about having to use the seatseatbeltbelt and prohibiting the carrier. This way our baby was secure and slept for most of the flight (also on the way back. She slept 50/60 minutes one way and 60/60 the other.) The other obvious recommendation is breastfeed (/bottlefeed) on the lap during takeoff and landing.
Feed them on the way up and the way down. Sucking/drinking greatly helps with the air pressure changes. We did that and worked wonders. We would walk of and people would be surprised there were children were in the plane.
Assuming your partner is breast-feeding, pop that kid on a nipple. We flew several times with young kids and being able to suckle kept the little ones quiet for most flights.
Don’t give a shit what other people think. I went through puking etc. in transport and public places. Just focus on kid comfort and prepare yourself with bags, wet wipes and backup clothes.
2 hours, you’re good.
Fly when your kid normally sleeps. Practice having them sleep on you. Motrin for kids.
Just keep loving them. Fuck everyone else. They’ll get over it.
Screaming kids are easy to ignore on most flights but I recently had one on a 14.5+ hour flight (Asia to US). Screamed 10-20 mins every 1 to 2 hours. I got 2 hours of sleep and felt as if I had the flu.
Investment in some noise-cancelling headphone would be justified. It’s a sanity-saving expense!
One thing I will say about lemmy is y’all take shit way too seriously. It’s a meme. A relatable one at that. Getting annoyed by children is normal and it’s not like anyone’s actively trying to get rid of your kids.
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I mean I agree. Personally I hate kids. But I’m not trying to get rid of them or anything like that I just avoid them as much as possible
Amen to that. It’s a joke, for my sake
I imagine it wouldn’t be profitable at all, but I would love services like flights, resturants, movies, etc that were adult only. Would be nice to just not have to deal with it.
It’s unavoidable and a part of life you just have to deal with though. You roll your eyes, you turn up the noise cancelling on your headphones and you deal with it. But at the same time, parents should do all they can to keep their kids quiet and well behaved and maybe consider whether flights before their child is even a toddler are the best idea.
Far too reasonable for this thread. You have to pick a side. You either have to believe that parents and children bare no responsibility for their intrusions on strangers lives or you have to believe that all babies should be exiled from public spaces until they are old enough to behave.
Choose.
Edit: /s cause this thread is ridiculous enough to need it.
My wife and I picked an adult-only hotel for our honeymoon. It’s fucking glorious. One of our fondest memories ever, and we cherish it even more now with third kid on her way to wreck havoc to our ears in a few short months.
I can imagine, especially for a honeymoon.
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I always book late night / red-eye when travelling with kids / grandkids. For some magical reason I cannot comprehend, they sleep nearly the entire flight.
