I hate researching appliances. Literally every brand and model has a ton of haters (often with tragic stories of how the appliance caused thousands of dollars in damages). There’s no way to research an appliance and come out with any sort of objective view point on it.
Sure there’s high level takes (Samsung bad, speed queen good), but then if you dig deeper into those off the cuff statements you realize even that isn’t true.
So I’ve generally just said fuck it and gone with whatever.
For one there’s the “hidden conglomerate” thing. Like oh I’m not buying Maytag anymore! They’re shit! I’m gonna buy whirlpool instead! Or jennair! Or kitchenaid! Or amana! But it doesn’t matter because those are basically all whirlpool
Then the actual appliances: very often you’ll find that they are basically the same thing with only tiny differences cosmetically. Like kitchenaid and Maytag will sell an oven that is the exact same, like you can swap parts between them, they fail in the same way, but they look different because the kitchenaid has different plastics to finish, basically, and maaaybe a few differences in the control board to add some “luxury” features. So it looks nicer (arguably) but is functionally the same and has a similar failure rate (they may filter better quality parts to the “luxury” models, doubtful), and costs 30-40% more
With the way capitalism has gutted shit even a lot of the old sentiment about brands is useless. The only real sentiment that is viable is that yes, buying commercial appliances for your home is going to get a product that is built to last longer and stand up to more abuse (like certain speed queen models). But then it’s like “oh well nice now I’ll spend 3-5x as much and get something hideously ugly so that my house ends up looking like a laundromat or bodega. And even then, there are shitty commercial appliances that fail quickly
Some appliances aren’t even made by established brands anymore.
Examples from my recent experience: kitchen scales for baking and exhaust fans for bathroom. Just Chinese crap everywhere. Nothing from global brands or even local brands in these categories.
Actually a surprising amount of appliances are manufactured in the USA again - whirlpool conglomerate and Samsung both have a sizable amount of manufacturing in the US
That said Chinese manufacturing is a response to demand. Chinese manufacturing quality is also a response to input. Iphones and pixels are manufactured in China (though this is changing). China will manufacture you incredible things but will make cheap garbage too. If you buy cheap shit don’t blame China, they just filled the role of making something as cheap as possible
As a counterpoint for example: my go to kitchen scale is an oxo good grips. Used it for years. Manufactured in China. Excellent product. I have other scales for when I need fine precision beyond 1g but this scale is my workhorse. Still accurately weighs to calibration weights after like a decade too.
This is why manufacturing origin is pointless. America makes crap. China makes crap. America makes good stuff. China makes good stuff.
Any time I need to buy something, I check if rtings has it as a category. If not, I give up and just buy something from a known brand with a long enough warranty and decent seeming specs, whatever they are.
I hate researching appliances. Literally every brand and model has a ton of haters (often with tragic stories of how the appliance caused thousands of dollars in damages). There’s no way to research an appliance and come out with any sort of objective view point on it.
Sure there’s high level takes (Samsung bad, speed queen good), but then if you dig deeper into those off the cuff statements you realize even that isn’t true.
So I’ve generally just said fuck it and gone with whatever.
Appliances are a nightmare
For one there’s the “hidden conglomerate” thing. Like oh I’m not buying Maytag anymore! They’re shit! I’m gonna buy whirlpool instead! Or jennair! Or kitchenaid! Or amana! But it doesn’t matter because those are basically all whirlpool
Then the actual appliances: very often you’ll find that they are basically the same thing with only tiny differences cosmetically. Like kitchenaid and Maytag will sell an oven that is the exact same, like you can swap parts between them, they fail in the same way, but they look different because the kitchenaid has different plastics to finish, basically, and maaaybe a few differences in the control board to add some “luxury” features. So it looks nicer (arguably) but is functionally the same and has a similar failure rate (they may filter better quality parts to the “luxury” models, doubtful), and costs 30-40% more
With the way capitalism has gutted shit even a lot of the old sentiment about brands is useless. The only real sentiment that is viable is that yes, buying commercial appliances for your home is going to get a product that is built to last longer and stand up to more abuse (like certain speed queen models). But then it’s like “oh well nice now I’ll spend 3-5x as much and get something hideously ugly so that my house ends up looking like a laundromat or bodega. And even then, there are shitty commercial appliances that fail quickly
Some appliances aren’t even made by established brands anymore.
Examples from my recent experience: kitchen scales for baking and exhaust fans for bathroom. Just Chinese crap everywhere. Nothing from global brands or even local brands in these categories.
Actually a surprising amount of appliances are manufactured in the USA again - whirlpool conglomerate and Samsung both have a sizable amount of manufacturing in the US
That said Chinese manufacturing is a response to demand. Chinese manufacturing quality is also a response to input. Iphones and pixels are manufactured in China (though this is changing). China will manufacture you incredible things but will make cheap garbage too. If you buy cheap shit don’t blame China, they just filled the role of making something as cheap as possible
As a counterpoint for example: my go to kitchen scale is an oxo good grips. Used it for years. Manufactured in China. Excellent product. I have other scales for when I need fine precision beyond 1g but this scale is my workhorse. Still accurately weighs to calibration weights after like a decade too.
This is why manufacturing origin is pointless. America makes crap. China makes crap. America makes good stuff. China makes good stuff.
Any time I need to buy something, I check if rtings has it as a category. If not, I give up and just buy something from a known brand with a long enough warranty and decent seeming specs, whatever they are.