• teagrrl@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    the lemmyworlds and their orbiters are gonna be upset about this one

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    There will be violence in Ukraine regardless of whether weapons are sent there or not. The second option will make it so there’s noone to police the russians. Pretty much like palestinians can’t do much about israelis slaughtering them.

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      NATO had buit the largest of any European armies there and they were slaughtering the ethnic Russians, nobody was crying about policing them were they?

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        5 days ago

        So what you meant to say is: "I think

        NATO had buit the largest of any European armies there and they were slaughtering the ethnic Russians, nobody was crying about policing them were they?

        But I have no sources other than my thoughts to support this view."

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          I’m saying this is not some secret and verifiable fact. They had 600K and a few100k reserves.
          Far more than England, France or whoever. Also the most tanks and everything else except navy.
          Even with all the nATO help and training it didn’t go too well so they used the Minsk accords to arm even further.
          Merkel admitted this, it is clear they never intended to honor it.
          Reports from the OCSE show how they continuously broke the ceasefire.
          Just before Russia intervened they reported 100’s of bombings.
          98% on the ukro site.
          Maybe learn to look something up, or don’t and keep making snooty remarks bcs you don’t want to see the truth.

      • Reddfugee42@lemmy.world
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        Ugh, the crying about NATO armies. “They were about to get too strong to attack, so Russia had to attack before they got completely too strong to attack.” Yeah, okay vlad

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    6 days ago

    Israel has controlled the USG for decades now. We support Israel because they have been intricately and impressively spying on us since at least the 1980s and bought and paid for most of our politicians. It’s just that simple, they own our politicians, and therefore: when they do heinous evil, our politicians look away.

    Ukraine was invaded by our largest rival on the world stage as a power grab, and NATO decided to help.

    The two situations are not comparable in the slightest.

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    8 days ago

    I’m interested to hear from someone that will disprove this, surely there are good examples given the voting on this.

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    the comments and the downvotes would be fascinating if it weren’t so clear that they come from a place of deeply ingrained willful ignorance.

    even the american liberal media is starting to admit that this is true, yet american liberals clutch onto it for whatever reason and i wish i could understand why.

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    8 days ago

    Love how in the first image you show the best part of the Palestinian people (which I do think is very much in the majority), but then in the second image you show the worst part of the Ukrainian people (which are very much in the minority).

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        That’s hardly a ‘lib move’, more like an ingrained human reaction to justify practically every action ever.

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        7 days ago

        Are you saying I am doing that here? The only thing I said was saying that the image is a little bit weird. Or do you think the majority of ukraine are nazi’s?

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          Are you saying I am doing that here?

          To be precise, mostly the latter of my comment applies, yes.

          Do you think the majority of ukraine are nazi’s?

          Ultimately, it doesn’t matter what I think, see the linked posts for details, feel free to challenge any of the sources while providing your own.

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            I don’t see a source that claims that anywhere near the majority of Ukrainians are nazi’s. Would you mind pointing me to that source?

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              I don’t see how my comment could be interpreted as claiming “majority”. The point is, you’re downplaying the rampant Nazi problem and its effects within Ukraine, which is ingrained in many aspects (see the sources) and practically institutionalized. the fact that you want to contest this speaks volume to your character.

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        Whoever doesn’t obey USA’s commands, USA calls a dictator, and then starts a vilifying campaign to justify intervening and getting rid of him/them. The EU always plays along and certainly Ukraine will not be an exception because it’s all business to them (Putin included) and war is the most profitable of all businesses.

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      Do you find it hard to sleep at night, knowing that the Spectre could be lurking in your room?