Who will explain the concept of a regular printer to him?
Who will explain the concept of a plotter to you?
You?
Or knives! Or inkjets! There are all kinds of bastards, I used to work with the knife variety (huge Roland thingamabobs) and also sell them.
Wait shit I just use one as a printer for bigass drawings. I didn’t realize it used a pen
Most modern “plotters” are just bigass printers. The word used to only mean pen-based vector-drawing machines, but the overlapping use in architechture and engineering meant that as cheap inkjets supplanted the pen plotters they co-opted the name.
Thanks, I’ve never dealt with that before. But from what I’ve read, a regular printer would still make more sense for such a task.
Teachers are starting to enforce hand written assignments to stop the use of chatGPT
Could one not just copy a chat got essay by hand?
Can’t jack off, play league, and write your homework with just two hands
That would actually help to learn the subject
They want you to hand copy what ChatGPT outputs and turn it in? That’s a terrible response to AI. If they want to hold you accountable, they should have you write it right there in front of them.
It’s a deterrent, not an end all be all solution to end cheating.
Ok, so hand copy all your assignments from ChatGPT all semester and I, the instructor, will count them as 50 percent of your final grade. The other 50 percent is based on a hand-written final essay written in class. How do you think you will do?
I am old so all of my formal university education was completed decades ago, but people cheated back then too and in my experience it’s usually way more effort than it’s worth as opposed to just doing the work and coming out with the skills you’ll need to be successful at the next level.
That’s my dreary little bit of moralizing for the day.
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It’s a deterrent, not an end all be all solution to end cheating.
Sure, but you can clearly see from the result that it’s not handwritten. The person could have used a normal printer.
This video says it’s possible to make it look like a human wrote it.
If you’re wondering if this is more work than writing the actual essay, we don’t talk about that here.
That’s really cool
Theoretically it could be 3D printer but used like a plotter here.
The saddest part of this is you probably learned more setting this up than if you had done the homework. You learned how to use ai text, a 3d printer, set it all up, and produce a viable result.
In my view, this is not sad. It’s just that education needs to incorporate parts of these new technologies into it. Technology is the future if education still wants you to write with a pen on paper then they are being outdated pretty fast.
Some of them are. My former high school/trade school redesigned their library from half books half computers to one third books one third comouters one third 3D printing, laser etching and poster printing.
There are some programs that focus on those things but it’s free for any student there to use no matter the trade they go there for. I wish I had it when I was there!
Be me in high school. We’re in meth class learning about random numbers and probabilities. The teacher says “in your calculator, random number is likely written rand()”. So I go into the Casio programmable calculator and start coding instead of listening to the lesson. Teacher noticed I’m not looking and calls me out. Threaten a detention and asks what I have been doing. “I made a gambling game” — teacher comes over to see. I had made a rice rolling game. You’d start with $100 and bet on rolls ( you could chose 1 or 2 die or coin toss). Bell rings and all my friends come lining up for me to transfer the program to their calculators with the transfer cable (a micro TRRS cable).
Little did they know there is a “virus” that I’d you land on snake eyes, the program launches an infinite loop, printing pages and page of space characters and the calculator is really slow at typing and print commands can’t be interrupted other than resetting the calculator and loosing all your programs.
I think, the handwritten font, that is used by the plotter, does not support german umlauts. But if you create your own handwriting font, this might be a fun idea to try to get away with.
“Stuff made here” has a video where he fools around with that idea. Worth checking out imo
I would assume, you have a standard text. That you handwrite. Then scan, so that the 3d printer can write in your handwriting!
All that for nobody to be able to read my crappy handwriting ;)
Its much more difficult than that to be actually believable. As u/Luftruessel said, theres a great video from “Stuff Made Here” where he goes deep inside the topic and tries to fool a graphologist.
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But the letter shapes change slightly depending on what letters are before and after.
You don’t just scan individual letters, you also scan a bunch of different combos of letters next to each other, as needed. For example, you’re gonna want specific scans for things like “ea”,“ee”, “eu”.
Getting several examples of every letter combination gets very hard very fast. Just lowercase, to get 5 examples of the letters before and after each letter is nearly 100k examples. You’d probably be better off doing some machine leaning shenanigans to simplify the process from training data.
I didn’t say every letter combination. I said the ones you need. Letter combos that do not connect to each other aren’t needed. Still though, you’re right that machine learning is needed… the good news is it’s already been done before, and the code is open source. StuffMadeHere on youtube already built a fully functional prototype that impressed if maybe didn’t fool forgery experts. https://youtu.be/cQO2XTP7QDw
Please watch the video
As part of the copy chain, you need to feed the ChatGPT output into a handwriting neural network you trained in your own handwriting, then have the 3D printer draw it.
Y’all silly. They already have machines that write stuff out for you with pens and stuff. And markers, too.
I have one! A Cricut. But there are more kinds out there.
I was thinking about that, but the lines, kerning, and consistency would give it away. Unless you have some app that’ll fuck with all that a bit.
This was the exact video I was hoping it would be.
We need piped to youtube link bot now
It probably wouldn’t be too difficult to have an ai analyze someone’s handwriting pattern, then replicate it and feed that into a 3d printer or cnc.
If I were a teacher and saw that every duplicate handwritten letter looked very similar to the last few, I’d definitely either assume you have some form of OCD (or something of similar nature) or are using an “AI” chatbot and some writing tool to write for you and would probably wanna see you at some point to ask about it.
Only acception might be if a student uses one of those writing tools because of accessibility issues when it comes to writing.
I mean, you could install a character pack that has variation and then there is nothing they can do about it.
I think a few years back I’ve seen articles about AI that can mimic your handwriting, including errors.
Edit: Could be this
The text turned out by the algorithm created by Tom Haines and his fellow UCL researchers is authentic enough that human judges are unable to tell the difference.
Also, 2016 was 7 years ago? Damn.
congratulations to them they just helped enable some future serial murderer to forge documents
This is a reaaaaly specific thing to think about, you okay?
not really if you watch forensic files or any of the 100s of other documentary shows on youtube/Netflix/etc
It’s actually a lot harder than you think. Stuff I Made here tried it. Fun little video.
Came here to link this. Your doing good work.
Teachers must be stupid af to believe its hand writen, but ill pretend they are. Just drop some blood and sweat on first page so they feel uncofortable to ask anything
This one probably. I do remember this video of someone actually making one that a professional forgery expert flat out said was convincing enough that he would have believed it was handwriting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQO2XTP7QDw
“As an AI language model, …”
Honestly, if teachers are going to continue assigning stupid homework that can be completed by chatgpt then they have no excuse.
Homework is so pointless anyway. If a student needs to revise work to properly learn it. They should be trusted to just study independently or when needed be helped by the teacher.
Depends on the age, in college my homework was like a check mark for 10% of my grade. Ignore it at your peril. In middle school you gotta see they are actually doing some work before you flunk them.
I can’t remember the last time I had mandatory college HW, it was class work then “if you wanna do this to help you can then we can go over next class” work, it wasn’t graded and only suited yourself to learn
STEM has a lot of homework. They basically make it hard as fuck and encourage people to collaborate on it. They check to make sure what you wrote vaguely resembles homework and put a check mark on it.
Fun fact: it was invented by Roberto Nevilis, who did it to punish students who didn’t understand much of the content/did not want to understand much of the content. However I suppose he didn’t expect teachers to use this globally.
I do agree with your points above and who knows, maybe chatgpt will finally force schools to be reinvented and remade for the next generation to be more engaging.
I wrote my own software and used commercial plotter (from 90s - it is way faster than 3d printer) in order to achieve result that can make teacher believe that it was written. In my language it is required for letters to be connected when handwritten (my program does it), there are different variations for each letter that are stretched and rotated during generation (I used pen tablet in order to input them)
It was written mostly when I was in 10-11th grade (that’s why the code is spaghetti) and I indeed wasted much more time than I would if I did my homework like a normal person
Btw here is repo: https://github.com/Snow4DV/3DWriter
I love how we will work for hours to invent something that will save us minutes of work.
This really reminds me of that book “The Homework Machine”
Bravo, that assignment gets an A+ with demonstrating why scripts are made
You’re only cheating yourself, just get a job rather than dicking around in school if you’re doing this.
That is way too easily said. I used a lot of tactics like these to get through high school for subjects I will never care about. Now I am in college and able to do a job I love.
This is innovation, and problem solving the small stuff is a very important skill in the modern day work environment.
Do I wasn’t to hand calculate an entire statistical analysis, no. I use excell.
It doesn’t make the work any more or less valid. If you can Google something in under a minute, don’t bother spending a tonne of time trying to remember it.
And never learn to do anything independently or understand what it is you are doing, or even know anything off hand. That way when Google censors you and witholds vital information in an emergency situation, you are totally unprepared for it and come to harm.
