Numerous Tesla owners say they’ve been trapped inside their EVs after they lost power.::Numerous Tesla owners say they have been trapped inside their EVs after they lost power.Teslas come with manual door releases, but they can be hard to find

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    1 year ago

    Have they tried subscribing to Twitter Blue? As I understand it, it ‘unlocks’ the door feature…

    /s

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    We’re deleting ‘doors’ as a feature. They just don’t make sense.

    — Melontusk

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      ‘Doors’ feature will only be available as a subscription service*

      • your subscription can be revoked at any moment if you’re mean to Melon on Xitter
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      You’re totally right.

      There is a manual door handle, which is not supposed to be used.

      Most guests in my car naturally tend to go for the manual handle instead of the button, when not instructed.

      So the people who claim to be locked are either looking for money or are total dumbfucks.

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    The manual door release can be tricky to find unless you’ve combed through your car’s owner’s manual.

    Absolute horseshit. Practically every person who gets out of my car for the first time goes for the manual handle. I have to make a point to tell them to use the button.

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      I have to make a point to tell them to use the button.

      So the design is flawed. 20 year old cars can drop the window slightly when the door is opened, why can’t a semi-self-driving car do it?

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        20 year old cars can drop the window slightly when the door is opened

        sigh

        It does. If there is no power or somebody swings the door open super fast it can damage/break the window. Generally it’s fine.

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          Not even a Tesla or Elon guy but wow people just really enjoy shitting on these cars lol. That 20 year old car that drops the window doesn’t drop it when the battery is dead either. Flawed design man, Teslas are ass, Elon is Satan 🤷‍♂️

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      came here to say this exact thing. I’m paranoid new people will pull the manual exit over the button, becauseit can potentially damage the frame.(which is dumb for other reasons).

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      What? Do you mean that there’s a button to open the door in Teslas? Wasn’t that standardized? And it is hard to find? They must be retarded.

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      and who the fuck is getting into any car without knowing how to open it in case of an emergency lol.

      I think most people assume car doors all operate reasonably similarly. I don’t necessarily specifically check “how to open the door if I need to” when getting into a rental, an Uber, or a friend’s new car.

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        The emergency release on a Tesla is in the normal spot for a door handle. People trapped just assume there isn’t a release and don’t look for one.

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          Did you look at the link posted? I’ve never seen a door handle like that, and I’m not even sure I would realize it was a lever if I saw it. It looks like a static part of the door to me.

          I do agree that I’d probably end up pulling on it after some searching, but it wouldn’t be the first place I’d go.

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        You’re getting into a car with an electronic door button, you probably shouldn’t assume it’s the same as every other car door.

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      I have never once in my life asked the driver of a vehicle how to open a door in case of emergency, because you should just be able to use the handle like any other fucking door.

      What kind of absolute dipshit asks every driver they ride with where the hidden emergency door releases are on their car? That’s never been a thing. Never. Because no one would imagine a door would be so poorly designed.

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        Counter argument, what kind of absolute dipshit gets into a car with a fucking electronic door button and doesn’t look for a manual alternative?

        Nobody’s saying Tesla doors are fucking well designed, but you would have to he an absolute fucking brick of a human being to get “trapped” in one.

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      Why would you assume pulling up on the inner part of the door is easy to find? It looks dumb as fuck and I would not think to try pulling that part

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      I can’t believe there isn’t a manual unlock for the back doors. They shouldn’t be road legal to lack that safety feature.

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      They could have at least put a label or symbol on it. I can totally understand if someone was looking for the emergency door handle and didn’t see it because it blends in. If the normal handle is marked it’s not unreasonable to presume the emergency handle would be too.

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      Never underestimate the stupidity of the average person. Don’t take my word for this, but I’ve heard that something like 50% of drivers don’t even know that you need to change your oil, intake filter, and check your tire pressure on a regular basis. The most basic, barebones maintenance that you need to have done, yet half of vehicle owners are completely clueless.

      You have no idea how many videos I’ve seen from Just Rolled into the Shop & Mechanical Nightmare on YouTube, where someone brings in a brand new car with a seized engine and only 40K miles on the dash, all because the owner never changed (nor even checked) the oil. And then they have the nerve to try to get a warranty replacement. Or how many alligators I see on the road because people are driving around with 20 PSI in their tires and wondering why they keep having blowouts.

      Check your oil level and tire pressure at least every other fill up, people. Also get every fluid flushed and every filter replaced if you’ve owned the vehicle for awhile or just bought it used. It’s not difficult, people.

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      I was riding in the front of my old boss’ model 3 and immediately just used the emergency unlock rather than the button. He said he didn’t even know about that.

      It definitely seemed like a pretty intuitive location.

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    I get that people could be more curious about their cars, but hiding an emergency release like some kind of hidden book on Hogwarts that you have to yank on seems like a dumb idea. Car doors have established design language, and if you break that design language it has to be pretty fucking obvious how to do the action your users were trained to do.

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      They are not hidden, I proactively tell new passengers to use the button not the emergency pull handle. If you use the emergency release the window doesn’t drop and can mess up the window trim. I learned to warn people after the first 3 passengers pulled the handle automatically instead of pressing the button marked ‘door’.

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      I the Tesla, the emergency release is where you’d normally look for the regular release. I have to tell people to use the button near their thumb instead.

      I get that not everyone has this same experience, but it seems like most people already know where the emergency release is on the Tesla, even if they’re not owners.

      I think the problem is more that people don’t even look for an emergency release because they assume there isn’t one.

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        Tesla is not alone (there was a story about someone trapped in a Corvette because they didn’t know about the separate emergency release handle).

        However, there are examples of doing it better. For example, evidently in the Mach E the emergency release is… pulling the normal door release harder. So there’s some detent for ‘normal electric opening of door’ and then if you are more frantic, pulling harder to really open the door.

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    Teslas come with manual door releases, but they can be hard to find

    This is misleading. The door releases are extremely hidden, and seem to be specifically designed to not be found by anyone who has not received special training to find and use them. Also, they are not the same on every model, and are sometimes not even the same on all versions of the same model.

    Some releases are hidden inside of door panel molding, others are hidden inside speaker grills, some are hidden under floor mats and even then must be pulled a specific direction to function.

    Tesla seems to be going out of their way to kill people by trapping them. It’s fucking bizarre.

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      The first time I ever rode in a Model 3, I accidentally used the mechanical door handle instead of the electronic one. It’s exactly where a normal door handle is. The driver said it happens all the time.

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      I’ve had a lot more people accidentally open the door with the manual override than the normal door release because it’s a lot more obvious than the normal door release. There are a ton of reasons to criticize Tesla, this is not one of them IMO. This article reads like a lot of other anti-EV “news” articles.

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      I mean, when you hide a manual door release behind a speaker grill what other conclusion can be made?

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    People… There are manual door handles right where you expect them to be. Why isn’t this in the title hmmmmmmm?

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      For the model S and X the handles look normal, but not for the model Y and 3. The handles for the model Y and 3 are in front of the window buttons, easy to miss. On top of that using the manual release handles for the model Y and 3 could possibly crack your window trim. Stupid, but true.

      Try looking up the models they’re talking about in the article before assuming things hmmmmmmm?

      But seriously, everyone should look up the emergency info for your vehicles. May you never need it, but it’s good to know. Like not all Tesla models have a back seat/trunk escape if you find yourself in a serious front end collision. Or how in the Model X you have to pry off the speaker grill to access the manual release wire.

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        I have a 3. Again, I have to tell people to use the button the first (and 2nd, and on) time they get out. They go right for the manual release which is where, as I said, you would expect.

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    Just when I start to think there’s alot of great information in the posts and comments on Lemmy, I read some like this.

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      Yep I thought the same after seeing 3 Tesla bashing posts one after the other in my feed. I don’t care for the brand but I also don’t want to hear about every single defect with them in individual posts.

      I think the ‘technology’ topic is too broad and allows for this sort of shit slinging to happen too easily.

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        I would argue that because reddit technology was anti-Tesla, they carried that over to lemmy as well.

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        Yea … hopefully user-defined multi communities come around and we can start to be a bit more organised about stuff here while also more easily able to splinter off into separate communities with different focuses.

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    It’s a feature, not a bug. This way you can admire interior even more. /s

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    Fact #648637 why Tesla is a bad car. It just feels very sloppy and badly engineered.

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    Every single one of these cars that has a stupid electronic poppwe always has a manual override if the battery dies. It’s been like that for literally decades and I wouldn’t be surprised if it is mandated by law.

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    I hate to be the voice of reason here, but if you get inside a powerful device to pilot it you should at minimum read the directions first.

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      I hate to be the voice of reason here

      But you could read the article first…

      Exton followed the instructions for the manual release to open the door, but he said this “somehow broke the driver’s window.”

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        That’s the tax. “You want to get out of your crippled car and not have a heat stroke? Go buy a new proprietary window from GlassX.”

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      Have you read your entire car manual? Mine’s like 200 pages, no way I’d remember everything even if I did read all of it. It’s best used as a refefence when you need to do something.

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            Lemmy sure does love name calling! It’s such a mature and productive way to carry on a conversation!

            I mean literally I paid 60k-ish all together for my two cars , why is it so hard to believe? I didn’t read it cover to cover, like all the detailed specifications, and the index and all that kind of stuff, I didn’t memorize the maintenance schedules for Canada and Mexico, but all the explanations of all the features? Of course I read all of that. It takes just 2-3 hours to go through it all, even sitting in the car and trying everything out as I go. It’s a super small time investment into something I’m going to own for several years. I spend way more time on a weekly basis on leisure activities like playing games.

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        If there was a weird procedure to open the doors I’d read that part… and anything else that isn’t standard or obvious too.