cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/9959466
geteilt von: https://programming.dev/post/27692275
https://feddit.org/post/9959466/5697405
[why blocked?] "a contributor made a push from a sanctioned region is what i saw. not even a main dev, and they didn’t receive any warning is my understanding. i might be way off, i’m not a final source:
Not that I condone Microsoft, but if it is a sanctioned country (Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc.). Microsoft will be in shit with the US government if they let it there.
If the project has contributors from there, then I guess they need to move off GitHub like they did.
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Yeah I don’t disagree. Corporations shouldn’t exist imo, but they do and if you don’t want to host your own things then we have to work with them.
Or with cooperatives. Cooperatives are a good alternative to corporations.
Cooperatives are still a corporation, but the ownership is distributed more than the CEO style corporation we are used to.
Are there any 501c3’s out there that I can host with? That would be the dream. Unless I guess buying into a cooperative of those exist
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A membership cooperative isn’t a bad idea I suppose for a cloud service. I think having users vote on the administration of a service could get hard to work with though unless the vote was to delegate it out.
If I interpret this toot correctly, there wasn’t a direct commit from a sanctioned region, but one developer was in one of those regions for a short while quite some time ago. And he may have been flagged because of this.
That seems bullshit.
I mean blocking specific countries is stupid anyway. Historically China has been playing games with the EU and the US on a geopolitical level. But: Chinese, European as well as American researchers have been at the core of research on current topics like AI, security, etc. Btw. ironically the scientific landscape is very collaborative and borders on a federated model, it’s actually pretty neat how much researchers don’t care about country of origin.
What I’m saying is introducing geopolitics into open source development or research is one of the most stupid things to do, because it punishes both your and the other country and only benefits uninvolved third parties. It’s literally shooting yourself in the foot.
If they can tell they’re from a banned region why are they letting them push in the first place. Sounds like a convenient excuse.
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That’s strange. A lot of people from Russia continue contributing on GitHub without any issues.
This Russiaphobia is so completely out of fucking control.
This is the benefit of using distributed tools like git.
Yeah, the code history is the easiest thing to migrate. The other stuff like issues relies on having a good exporting/importing tool on both sides.
Ooh, I didn’t know that someone had developed a mechanism to move issues and PRs.
I remember commenting on the fact that while it’s easy to move the source repo itself from location to location, as git makes that easy and self-contained, issues and PRs didn’t enjoy that.
You can easily do that with forgejo/gitea. However, you cannot sync these issues, that’s a one-off operation.
You can however totally sync the git repo - either out of the box or using web hooks/git hooks.
YMMV. I’ve seen issues in migration from Gitea to Codeberg. Always test first.
Ouch, and that is with Gitea and Codeberg being essentially the same software.
I bet you could sync issues if you were bored enough. It’d be a pipeline that you have to maintain and two way syncs are a pain to maintain, but I bet it’s doable
organic maps ftw!
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It probably won’t, they were banned due to sanctions that the EU completely support. Though they were unblocked so it raises questions was the ban even legitimate and also why it took 2 weeks to unban them.
Edit. Also will it be as easy to organize ban of other services by making a commit with Russian vpn?
Forgejo seems pretty good, I’ll move my stuff there too
It doesn’t seem like a very “walled” garden if they were able to migrate all their data including issues and comments
