• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    5 days ago

    Why? Our ancestors never worried about environmental impact, and it’s clear that the only thing that matters is what we used to do.

    Our ancestors used to find themselves in an environment that wasn’t good and they’d walk to somewhere that was. Or starve.

    Or we could, instead of shitting on people who want to see the world and and enjoy the abilities we’ve developed to do so, shit on the people who made the “not terrible” ways of doing that impossible.

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      5 days ago

      Ok, so you’ll agree that in the meantime people need to stop traveling then? Right? RIGHT?

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        5 days ago

        How far is traveling? What means do you find acceptable? And until when do you mean?

        Do I need to wait until I have access to a totally renewable train to go to the nice beach that’s a 90 minute drive away? What about the 25 minute drive to the flooded salt quarry that gives everyone a rash due to the stunning population of migratory waterfowl? The 15 minute drive to the park on the river with a vaguely unsettling murk to the water?

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          5 days ago

          Hey, you just mentioned a bunch of destinations that you don’t need to use a plane to go to, good job, enjoy them!

          Air travel is the issue, not traveling.

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            5 days ago

            you’ll agree that in the meantime people need to stop traveling then?

            You’ll have to forgive my confusion and understand why I might have thought you had an issue with travel in general. Writing off trains and boats didn’t help either, nor saying that people who wanted to focus on alternatives to air travel were in favor of destroying the environment.