• NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
    821·
    7 days ago

    Considering Russia kind of just put the final nail in the coffin for your democracy, probably Russia

  • ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org
    52·
    7 days ago

    Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost - the “homegrown” criminal gang.

    Seriously, had you heard about MS-13 before Trump?

    • Rhoeri@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      6 days ago

      Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost

      Soooooooo…. You’re saying Russia then.

    • GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      2·
      6 days ago

      Glorifying gang culture was really popular in the 90’s-2000’s so I was definately slightly aware of ms-13 from someplace. Maybe law and order or some other show mentioned it. I was never really aware of DT until he ran for president.

  • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
    262·
    6 days ago

    Russia, biggest mafia in the world, and also funds White supremecist/right wing groups all over the worlds.

  • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
    10·
    6 days ago

    Depends on context. If the context is “planning a holiday in El Salvador”, maybe MS-13 is relevant. Beyond being worried about impact on others’ lives, MS-13 is largely irrelevant to Americans and most people that I’ve encountered never heard of them before 2016.

        • Hobo@lemmy.world
          41·
          5 days ago

          I’m not sure what you’re getting at. That article says in multiple places, and even implies it with the scare quotes in the title, that they didn’t find a bunch of gang members in that complex. So what exactly are you trying to say?

          Here’s a few quotes from that article:

          Aurora Police Department Interim Chief Heather Morris said in a statement on Friday that “gang members have not taken over” the complex.

          “I’m not saying that there aren’t gang members that don’t live in this community,” Morris said. “But what we’re learning out here is that gang members have not taken over this complex.”

          …

          Morris stated that the local authorities have “really made an effort” in recent days to ask specific questions about gang activity in the area and at the complex.

          “Making sure that people aren’t paying rent to gang leaders or gang members,” she said.

          According to Morris, the residents they’ve spoken with have assured them that this isn’t happening, and she believes they are being honest.

          “We’re standing out here, and I can tell you that gang members have not taken over this complex.”

            • Hobo@lemmy.world
              3·
              5 days ago

              Just curious but have you looked into that story on the Aurora apartment complex past the reactionary headlines you’re cherry picking? It’s way more nuanced and has little to do with gangs. I kind of find it funny that you decided to backtrack with a different article because you didn’t even read the first one you posted.

              As for some nypost gibberish, I don’t care to read it. It’s obvious you’re a reactionary and have an agenda. The “immigrant problem” is a racist nationalistic bullhorn, and I suspect you fall into that crowd. Unless of course you support returning the US to the people that aren’t immigrant ancestors? Perhaps we could find some common ground there.

    • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
      141·
      6 days ago

      Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don’t fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on hurt people and the people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.

  • mapumbaa@lemmy.zipEnglish
    153·
    6 days ago

    Russia. MS-13 is nothing in comparison. Though it wouldn’t surprise me if Russia supports MS-13 as part of their hybrid warfare. That’s how they work.

    Understand that Russia has largely been able to put US to its knees through hybrid methods that utilize and enhance the negative effects of american arrogance, neoliberal dogmatism and the war on drugs. Trump is the final stage before the empire comes down. It’s probably too late to turn the ship around by now. China + EU is already the facto world leaders and the US is doing everything to destroy itself and there is no real political and economical self-awareness among people with power.

    The US should have started to decrease inequality, stop the war on drugs and enforced (sane) tariffs and migration policies 15 years ago. The EU has the same problems, but there isn’t the same level of inequality and political extremism and fundamentalism, which makes me believe that the EU will survive as a western democracy and relevant world player, but the US will not.