• czech@lemm.ee
    133·
    12 days ago

    I love my jobs implementation of onedrive. It copies files from my hardrive, erases the local copy, and then loses the remote version.

    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
      94·
      12 days ago

      Just activate the option to keep a local copy, right click the folder your files are in and choose “keep local copy”

      • bishop@lemmy.world
        631·
        12 days ago

        “your administrator has restricted your ability to change this setting”

      • the_tab_key@lemmy.world
        231·
        12 days ago

        You say this like it makes sense that this functionality isn’t the default. Why the fuck does that make sense to you?!

        • nogooduser@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          12 days ago

          The idea is that you can have more data online than you can fit on your computer.

          It makes sense for SharePoint when there can easily be enough data to cause space problems on employee computers.

          It doesn’t really make sense for it to be the default for personal OneDrives though.

          • bobs_monkey@lemm.ee
            5·
            12 days ago

            It also allows IT depts to deploy thin clients for a fraction of the cost of a full desktop (along with the crap performance for actual multitasking).

        • Final Remix@lemmy.world
          4·
          12 days ago

          It is the default, but some IT people decide to set shit up a particular way that makes things stupid, and some even lock those settings for some dumbass reason…

      • czech@lemm.ee
        7·
        12 days ago

        Thanks! It was “Always keep on this device” but I didn’t know that was an option. I was able to fully download a folder where individual items could not be retrieved. Awesome!

        • brbposting@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          12 days ago

          Apple lets you do this with ebooks, then you turn off iCloud sync thinking it’ll just keep all the local copies you just individually downloaded…

          nah deletes ‘em all

  • Redkey@programming.dev
    351·
    12 days ago

    I recently wasted multiple evenings going through this with my partner’s photos on both OneDrive and Google. It was a nightmare, trying to disentangle their systems from the cloud, and delete stuff from the cloud (they were hitting the free quotas, which was causing problems) without also deleting that content locally.

    I ended up doing a full backup from the cloud to an external drive and unplugging it just to be sure, then carefully using the awful web interfaces to delete a bunch of photos and videos from the cloud after deactivating all the auto-backup “options”, which is apparently the only way to do it without also wiping your local media. There doesn’t seem to be any way to do it while using the “service” normally on the device; any attempt to delete from the cloud will also delete your local copy.

    People have called me paranoid for seeking out and removing/deactivating these “services” with extreme prejudice on my own devices, but this experience was even worse than I’d imagined.

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      15·
      12 days ago

      Yeah, such a service, deleting your files!

      I ran into a fun one where both google and Xiaomi backed up my photos, that was a nightmare to save and clean out. They would write back deleted files (hey look we restored your list files!) and the other service would back them up again lol.

      It’s almost as it’s not meant to be useful but a trap to fall into eh.

    • Midnitte@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      12 days ago

      trying to disentangle their systems from the cloud, and delete stuff from the cloud (they were hitting the free quotas, which was causing problems) without also deleting that content locally.

      …and that’s Microsoft’s entire game. Get old people to pay more for higher tiers of storage because your mom doesn’t understand why she has no storage left for the family picnic photos.

  • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
    387·
    12 days ago

    A reminder that if your data is not backed up in a different physical location, then it is not safe.

    • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      5·
      12 days ago

      Depends on the data, some data would be fine being deleted but not fine being leaked, some the other way around.

    • 7empest@beehaw.org
      2·
      12 days ago

      I am almost 100% ubuntu, but working in home office and remoting to use my three monitor setup from work (windows) at home is a nightmare. Remmina is the best at the moment and she laggy as, and getting it to use all three screens at work, at home… Nightmare

      • Decq@lemmy.world
        1·
        12 days ago

        Never found remmina to be laggy but never tried with 3 monitors. Still sounds better than what I had to do when i had to work from home a few years ago. I had to run a windows vm, to log in to citrix at work (didn’t work directly in Linux for me then) to then remote desktop into servers and work in emacs there. It was virtualization hell. It worked but oh boy was everything laggy… Should have gone one deeper and ran my linux on a hypervisor for a true beauty of a setup.

  • sbird@lemmy.worldEnglish
    17·
    12 days ago

    Why MIcrosoft can’t develop a good desktop app when they have a huge amount of money and loads of staff. Not to mention owning the operating system a majority of people use, meaning the app, syncing, backing up, etc. can be super optimised for it without any fuss for using workarounds. NO MS, PUTTING ALL MY FILES INTO A “OneDrive” FOLDER IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. WHY IS THERE TWO OF THEM??? “OneDrive” and “OneDrive - [org name]”??? WHAT??? AND YOUR TASKBAR ICON THING FOR ONEDRIVE IS ANNOYING. WHY CAN’T I QUIT ONEDRIVE WITHOUT OPENING THE MENU???

    Thankfully I switched to more competent cloud providers. pCloud is pretty good, they just sync your files. No stupid “moving all your folders into a pcloud folder and making two of them one of which is empty for some reason”. Super duper simple. And pcloud definitely has many times less budget and staff than MS. Jottacloud is also great, pretty similar to pcloud in that it only syncs files. WHY ARE THESE MUCH SMALLER COMPANIES DOING A WAY BETTER JOB THAN MS???

    • piccolo@sh.itjust.works
      8·
      12 days ago

      The reason MS puts all the main folders in onedrive is because users are tech illiterate. Most dont understand they need to place files into a special directory to be swished away to the cloud service. I know, because I’ve done the same thing when i setup my parents pc with linux… no matter how many times i explain “just place the files in this folder to automatically synced” all their files just up in the standard home directories never to be synced. I ended up just symbolic linking the home directory to one in the cloud directory. >_>

      Now how MS managed to even fucked that up… well thats a whole other story.

      • sbird@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        12 days ago

        that makes sense…but why is there two of them? That’s really weird. And I don’t think they want you to quit OneDrive…

        Also, since they own the operating system (Windows), they could easily just sync the folders directly. (Documents, Pictures, Desktop, Music, and Videos) That’s where most people put their files in, so why not just sync that? Why move everything into a special OneDrive directory with all the issues that comes with that?

  • the_riviera_kid@lemmy.worldEnglish
    161·
    12 days ago

    The cloud is just someone elses computer, you could pay 19.99 a year for 100 gbs of storage on some shady corporations server somewhere for them to inevitably jack up the price. Or you could not be an idiot and buy a 128 gb flash drive for 14.99 one time and have that storage forever.

    • Jyek@sh.itjust.works
      151·
      12 days ago

      Flashdrives are not forever storage. Flashdrives corrupt literally all the time. And old flashdrives that sit around also corrupt while not in use. If you care about your data, store that data in multiple places. Follow the data hygiene rules. 3 2 1: 3 copies of the data, on 2 different storage mediums, with 1 copy off-site.

  • IMongoose@lemmy.world
    10·
    12 days ago

    Bro, I had just reinstalled windows and I moved my backup folder straight to my desktop, then left. I get an alert like two hours later saying my onedrive is full. What? Go back and the copy failed. I can excuse it automatically backing stuff up because people don’t understand anything, but to cancel my local transfer is insane. I was livid. OneDrive is cancer.

  • Gsus4@mander.xyz
    81·
    12 days ago

    Yeah, my factory windows install died and refused to boot up, because I spent too long without creating an account or some ransom shit like that…I was sad for a second…then I booted back to Debian as I do every day :))

    • FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
      6·
      12 days ago

      I’ve never had an account… not sure what weirdness you experienced but I’ve never once been pestered or asked for a login. Infact, the only thing I get is the ‘lets finish setting up windows’ full screen trash, which is just a window and I can alt-f4 to close. It’s been years like that.

  • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    12 days ago

    This is one thing I still can’t seem to rid myself of with Windows 10. Is there something in the Windows 10 Pro group policy thing I can do to send OneDrive back to hell from whence it came? I’ve only managed to get my files to save to a directory not controlled by it, however the quick links to media folders still point to the one drive folder even after manually changing them numerous times.

    • MudMan@fedia.io
      42·
      12 days ago

      I’m confused. Are you logged in to OneDrive?

      I mean, don’t get me wrong, I loathe OneDrive. It’s the flakiest, most unreliable piece of software in MS’s current end-user-focused stable…

      …but it still needs you to log in. If you log out from OneDrive it does nothing. It’s a separate login from the Windows login, too, if you’ve used one of those to install Windows.

      I genuinely haven’t used Win10 in enough time I don’t recall if it gave you more notifications to re-enable it, but after refusing to log in and taking OneDrive out of my startup tasks I don’t think it’s come up again on any of my Windows devices.

      • 🇰 🔵 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        12 days ago

        I don’t even have a login for it, let alone try to use it. What it has done, however, has made itself the standard “My Documents” folder in the user profile. I am not using it for anything, I have that all on a totally separate drive and mostly everything correctly points to the new destination I have for My Documents, My Games, My Videos, etc.

        However, I can not get the Quick Links on the left side of an explorer window to stick to the new destination. It keeps reverting back to the OneDrive folder within the user folder so using them just sends me to an empty folder.

        • MudMan@fedia.io
          21·
          12 days ago

          See, then you fell for a dark pattern, because I refused to use it on first boot and there is no One Drive folder in this brand new computer I’m currently using at all. It isn’t the standard My Documents folder, it doesn’t have a folder at all and the application icon isn’t on my system tray.

          That’s why I was asking about the Win10 install being different, but I’ve installed Win 11 twice this year, once in a computer for personal use that currently doesn’t have any One Drive folder at all and one for work where One Drive is logged in to a work account (along with Office 365) and it only syncs that work folder, not the personal folders, photos and whatnot. You can absolutely have a Windows (11, anyway) install with no One Drive synced to anything at all, or even running.

          It sucks that Windows designs its install process as a dark pattern-ladden attempt to get you to sign up for crap, but you can reject all of it. Maybe I do it enough I have the habit and I underestimate how hard it is to choose what you actually want. I guess that’s the equivalent to having a working Windows 98 key memorized in the early 2000s.

      • FiveMacs@lemmy.ca
        3·
        12 days ago

        Can confirm. I have never had W10P bug me about OneDrive. I don’t have, nor will I ever have an account for microshit. Local user only. All files stored locally and have never been promoted to do otherwise.