Date of 4 June remains one of China’s strictest taboos, with government using increasingly sophisticated tools to censor its discussion
There is no official death toll but activists believe hundreds, possibly thousands, were killed by China’s People’s Liberation Army in the streets around Tiananmen Square, Beijing’s central plaza, on 4 June 1989.
The date of 4 June remains one of China’s strictest taboos, and the Chinese government employs extensive and increasingly sophisticated resources to censor any discussion or acknowledgment of it inside China. Internet censors scrub even the most obscure references to the date from online spaces, and activists in China are often put under increased surveillance or sent on enforced “holidays” away from Beijing.
New research from human rights workers has found that the sensitive date also sees heightened transnational repression of Chinese government critics overseas by the government and its proxies.
Not contesting there was a violent crackdown, but didn’t the video for this moment end with the tank just stopping the entire time, the briefcase guy climbing onto the tank, then getting shuffled away by fellow civilians?
Everyday we see way worse shit happening on the streets of the US. Somehow the crackdown back then on anti-communist academics is an enshrined moment, but people on our streets getting arrested, detained, or killed is just business as usual.
And we also act like our country doesn’t call academics “indoctrinated”, beat the living crap out of both students and academics, and doesn’t want to kill them. Amazing.
The were about 8000 people killed iirc. I once saw on reddit a link to a photo archive of the day and especially night. There were some very explicit photos. Like intestines falling out of opened bellies and bodies with half a head left.
Pretty sure the range is unknown to this day, and 8k is incredibly excessive. The British ambassador that claimed 10k revised it to around 3k and even that was high compared to corroborating reports
You’re actually delusional if you think anything like the Tiananmen square massacre is happening in the US today.
They weren’t “fellow civillians”.
https://x.com/carlzha/status/1134582926325104641
Those “fellow civillians” weren’t civilians, they were secret police. So I don’t know what good does the video do.
Have you tried actually confirming that?
Have you tried not being a tankie and thinking for a second, or actually doing your own research?
That was a Socratic question. You clearly have not because you’re parroting unconfirmed theories from Internet forums. Perhaps if you had “done your own research”, you wouldn’t be sounding like such a moron
Uh huh, sure mr tankie, I sound like a moron. Get blocked.
If it’s condensed down to a day then it’s easy to bleat about it since you can point to a single day “where it all happened”. If you spread out the injustice, like instituting unjust laws bill-by-bill, increasing police funding, and ramping up media rhetoric on how crime is out of control and that we need politicians who are “tough on crime” then you get something like the most imprisoned population on Earth, but there isn’t a single focal point to point at, instead multiple contributing factors, so it doesn’t stick out as much.
Agreed, I was hoping to bring attention to the fact that beyond a short attention span, you’d see comparable if not exceeding levels of historic violence
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No. The US is not currently outright massacring citizens.
Could it happen? Sure. Is it happening? No.
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