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  • Recant@beehaw.orgEnglish
    50·
    3 months ago

    I really wish it had a 3.5mm audio jack. I don’t see what companies stand to earn, other than money, when they remove the headphone jack.

    I can see why Apple and Samsung removed it because the they can market their own wireless headphones.

    Removing the jack only removes capability, it is not like older phones didn’t have the capability to connect to Bluetooth headphones

  • Safeguard@beehaw.orgEnglish
    44·
    1 year ago

    I pre-ordered already.

    Ok, so honesty time: The fact that this company is good for the environment, pays people well, etc… is NOT my main “thing” for wanting to own this phone.

    It’s the fact that it is open. I can unlock and flash whatever I want, I can fix things by ordering replacement parts, a new screen is TOTALLY do-able both price wise and doing it myself.

    Also it does not come with bloat, or vendor-lock in software like on ALL samsung shitty phones.

    Out of all the phones, this one makes the most sense.

    (And my current FP4 goes to my mother, perfect for her and many more years of support)

  • NotAnArdvark@lemmy.ca
    42·
    1 year ago

    Threads for Fairphone often fill up with “it’s not going to work if they don’t X.” Lots of people don’t seem to understand that their personal viewpoint can be quite different from other’s.

    There are people who are aware of the trade-offs of a Fairphone, but still choose to get one.

    • bionicjoey@lemmy.ca
      26·
      1 year ago

      I’ve always been in favour of a phone with a shitty camera. I don’t give a fuck about posting on social media, and these days a huge chunk of a phone’s price is determined by how powerful of a camera they were able to cram into it.

      I recognize that this apparently sounds insane to most people.

      • erwan@lemmy.ml
        11·
        1 year ago

        I don’t post on social media either, but my phone have replaced the compact camera that I used to pack for family vacations.

        I suspect that’s what most people use their phone camera phone: to take personal photos that will only be shared with family members.

      • ripcord@kbin.social
        3·
        1 year ago

        In terms of BOM the cameras usually aren’t even that much. It’s just one factor that allows them to differentiate “premium” phones they can gouge more for.

  • TurboTurbo@feddit.nl
    23·
    1 year ago

    I was exited for this phone, but as I said in another thread: I am a bit disappoited about the CPU and the substantial price hike, but most of all aqout the size increase. Is there any market research at all indicating that customers want 6"+ displays?

    • Irina@beehaw.orgEnglish
      27·
      1 year ago

      Is there any market research at all indicating that customers want 6"+ displays?

      Unfortunately, yes. People who buy smaller phones are the people who buy a new phone less often, and small phones tend to sell worse than the big models (see S10e, iPhone 12(?) Mini) so don’t get renewed. Would be nice if they did.

      • NiklzNDimz@beehaw.org
        10·
        1 year ago

        It’s so frustrating that this is true. I use devices until they’re dead or at risk of serious compromise before getting another, but the only options are ones that I can’t even hold comfortably with one hand. I’m seriously considering the Jelly 2 at this point.

      • DJDarren@beehaw.org
        6·
        1 year ago

        I picked up a 13 Mini back in March, and will ride this bad boy for as long as I can, in the hope that Apple eventually release another Mini model.

        So perhaps it’s true that we hold onto our little phones for longer, primarily because we’re waiting for another little phone to come along.

        • sparkl_motion@beehaw.org
          4·
          1 year ago

          This is so true. I had a 12 mini and upgraded to the 13 mini in December. The battery is better, and I plan on keeping this until the next mini phone arrives. (If any)

    • noodlejetski@beehaw.org
      4·
      1 year ago

      substantial price hike

      it’s €50 more expensive than the FP4 with the same RAM/storage configuration on its release (€650 fot 8 GB of RAM and 256 GB of storage).

      • srecko@lemm.ee
        1·
        1 year ago

        Also it’s 3x cheaper than my pentium that i bought in 1997 and it has 3000x less ram than this. I know that we don’t have that kind of exponential growth of hardware like we had 10 years ago, but still there is progress and it’s expected to have a better product for the same price each generation.

  • pH3ra@beehaw.org
    18·
    1 year ago

    The first company that produces a phone with

    • removable battery
    • maximum 6in screen
    • 3.5mm jack
    • open bootloader

    will break the market

      • pH3ra@beehaw.org
        4·
        1 year ago

        Yeah that would be nice, unluckily it’s been discontinued and whenever I find one on the secondary market the price is prohibitive…

    • YeeHaw@beehaw.org
      3·
      1 year ago

      People want big phones for some reason, so it’s unlikely it would break the market. Those who want what you described are (unfortunately) very few.

      • Gyoza Power@discuss.tchncs.de
        7·
        1 year ago

        People want big phones for some reason

        Bigger battery, better for content consumption and overall usage if you use it frequently. It’s not that weird, yet you treat it as if we were talking about aliens.

        • YeeHaw@beehaw.org
          3·
          1 year ago

          Not sure where you got the aliens conclusion.

          I mean, almost complete disappearance of smaller phones is kinda puzzling? The difference in screen/battery size between a 6" and a 6.8" phone isn’t that big, yet one will fit pretty much any pocket, while the other one won’t. I still find it counterintuitive that most people would put that much priority on gaining screen real estate over mobility. Another interesting thing is that these smaller sized phones are still present in flagship releases, so they’re kind of a premium feature now.

          • Gyoza Power@discuss.tchncs.de
            2·
            1 year ago

            I mean, almost complete disappearance of smaller phones is kinda puzzling?

            Yeah, my bad there, I understood the previous comment as somewhat of a “Well I don’t understand how people can like big phones”.

            My guess is, as with many other things, corporations pushed towards a certain thing (big phones in this case) enough to make it the default and then the bigger audience just stopped caring as a result.

            It is interesting indeed, but I guess that’s just it, aside from the obvious fact that the bigger the space, the easier is to design stuff (my previous comment + better heat dissipation + more space for cameras), so probably a mixture of all of these things together and a couple more.

        • query@beehaw.org
          2·
          1 year ago

          What’s weird is that it’s the only option. They discontinued the iPod since the phone did it all, but then also stopped making phones that are convenient sizes and any analog sound option.

      • pH3ra@beehaw.org
        1·
        1 year ago

        I don’t think that we are very few, I mean look at the upvotes…
        It’s just the market that is going the other direction and we just take it instead of spending a little bit of time looking for other solutions.

    • timkenhan@sopuli.xyz
      17·
      1 year ago

      Also:

      • lack of 3.5mm jack
      • EVEN BIGGER size

      At this point, they’re just following the trend.

      • ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org
        5·
        1 year ago

        Yes, and I’m still a little surprised, even after the 4.

        Are they really aiming for mainstream consumers? Because, I don’t know, but I don’t think they reach mainstream people at all.
        Who they reach is those who are explicitly searching for this kind, techies, and they also have pretty different needs than the mainstream.

        I mean, I think it’s ok that they are making phones like these.
        But what’s weird is that they are not making phones for techies, who are their current audience, as I see.
        I understand that it’s costly to have different variants, but at least there would be 2 or 3, which are actually distinct in their features, for the different audiences. No need for different SoC, but like there’s this one for the mainstream when that catches on. But then another for techies with jack, a smaller and normal screen (which means square, without camera hole, front camera is distinct if there at all) and less cameras on the back, maybe other diffs too like IR blaster or double sim and microSD. It could also have a different look, like shiny instead of glossy. I mean, it’s a different audienve, the preferred looks will be most probably be different too… and while I don’t dislike how the non-screen parts of the 5 look like, it’s not my cup of tea.

  • Reil@beehaw.orgEnglish
    15·
    1 year ago

    Their website doesn’t seem to specify which GSM bands it has (simply “More Bands and Band-Combinations for better reception”). I want to know how much of a given provider’s spectrum I’d be missing out on trying to sneak one of these to the states.

    • keiko@fedia.io
      11·
      1 year ago

      Fairphone 4:
      4G supported bands: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B18/B19/B20/B28/B32/B38/B40/B41/B71
      5G supported bands: n1/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28/n38/n41/n71/n77/n78

      Fairphone 5:
      4G supported bands: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B20/B28/B32/B38/B40/B41/B42/B48/B66/B71
      5G supported bands: n1/n2/n3/n5/n7/n8/n20/n28/n38/n41/n48/n66/n71/n77/n78

      Relevant comment about Fairphone 4 in the USA

      TL;DR: By adding band 66, Fairphone 5 has better compatibility with cellular network providers in the USA. Band 48 also gives better compatibility with Verizon. T-Mobile is still the best for Fairphone in the USA.

      • Reil@beehaw.orgEnglish
        5·
        1 year ago

        Thanks! Yeah, it looks like it covers T-mobile minus the GHZ/ mmWave bands, which is good for me. A solid consider, especially if they (eventually) drag it over to the states like the Fairphone 5.

  • TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pubEnglish
    13·
    1 year ago

    If it a) comes to the US, and b) comes with stock Android out of the box, I might get it for my next phone. Currently leaning toward a Pixel with Graphene.

  • Sina@beehaw.org
    8·
    1 year ago

    This is a pretty great phone, I just wouldn’t spend this much on a phone. Even if it lasts let’s say 6 years, I can buy 3-4 mid range androids at this price & as the years go by they could be far better than this one near the end.

    Also while Iphones are really hard to repair, they do last very long & there are people out there who can replace my iphone battery for like $40 and it too would last 5-6 years. (a recent enough refurbished SE for example)