• CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca
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    7 days ago

    I have never seen a dem advertisement based on deportation.

    To say “both sides” campaigned on a policy of mass deportation is a straight up lie. Mass deportation isn’t bi-partisan as you say… with zero proof no links and nothing to back up your bs… you offer no proof and are therefor a liar.

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          5 days ago

          More manpower makes for more arrests, more rapid processing of migrants, and more physical removals abroad.

          Particularly when agents are given quotas to hit that exceed the number of migrants available for capture. We’ve seen how this played out under Greg Abbott in Texas during Operation Lone Star, a state that received $12B in federal reimbursements for the gruesome work done in 2022.

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        6 days ago

        In what world is advocating for border security akin to rendering folks by masked individuals and trafficking them to foreign countries without due process…?

        What democrat has ever advocated for ice to do what they’re currently doing?

        Pointing to how democrats advocating that strengthening our border doesn’t require kidnapping…

        Well you don’t really have a point do you?

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          5 days ago

          In what world is advocating for border security

          They weren’t advocating for security. They were advocating for more cops, more arrests, and more deportations.

          Pointing to how democrats advocating that strengthening our border

          Nothing either party has done has made the border more “secure”. The fact that you bought into this false narrative illustrates the damage the liberals have done. They’ve sold you the same bill of goods as the Republicans, in slightly different wrapping.

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            5 days ago

            We’re at a point where we can’t say how secure or insecure the border is. Saying dems haven’t secured anything is a meaningless statement while republicans state immigrant hordes are eating dogs and cats…

            Meanwhile democrats recognize the absurdity of painting immigrants with that brush while trying to be sensible with border policy given the line being fed to you folks about eating dogs all while you say any border action on behalf of dems is akin to masked ice agents trafficking mothers in broad daylight…

            All of this is you letting trump dictate terms

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        6 days ago

        Do you remember the time she mentioned an immigrant horde coming to eat your dogs and cats?

        Remember when as VP she directed ICE to render folks unconstitutionally and under masks?

        I don’t cause you’re full of shit

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              6 days ago

              You’re setting up a clearly misleading and manipulative standard so you can play some horseshit “gotcha” based on a technicality. Obviously the VP doesn’t control immigration, but who the fuck cares and why would you make that your standard? Kamala was running for president, and she promised to run her administration exactly like Biden’s. We have to judge Kamala by Biden’s performance, as she promised to continue his policies.

              But here you are trying to defend her on a technicality, saying, “nu huh, acktually, she wasn’t in charge of immigration, she was only the VP!”

              Manipulative petty bullshit. It’s transparently bad faith.

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                6 days ago

                I’m not setting anything up. You’re just clearly not supporting anything. And Biden or Harris’ admin never treated immigrants like this ever.