Since there are no rules and no due process 4 of 4 should be worried. If you think this isnt gonna escalate you are nuts.
@njm1314@lemmy.world 3 out of 4 US adults are nuts
5 out of 4 are nuts
And 11/10 are bad at math.
Every ICE agent deserves death. We need to normalize this kind of language. I may not be the one to give it to them. But fundamentally, every single ICE agent deserves to hang for their crimes against the Republic. Every last one of them is guilty of treason. They all deserve literal execution.
Unless something happened it was always going to escalate. The question was ever only the cause and whether any side would meet that escalation with their own. I started asking something similar during Covid and was told people didn’t want to risk someone spitting on them. I said it again after January 6th and people replied that they didn’t want to be targets by some psycho. A year ago when this started to become clear I asked why we weren’t out on the streets reminding the DNC what we need and I got the same answer then I’ve gotten in the past: I can’t take off of work/I need to pay my bills.
So, my friends, is this enough yet?
That is a sharp fucking rise for three months.
Isn’t there a german word for it, blitzkrieg?
“Blitzkrieg” is literally “lightning war”, and just refers to the style of offense the Germans used against other European countries in WWII, which was largely responsible for their early military success.
Armies at that time relied on stationary positions and slow logistics, horse-drawn carriages for a large portion. The Germans just blitzed into France, through the Maginot line.
Which makes me wonder whether the current idea of MAD holding off war isn’t as deluded as relying on the Maginot line. I sure hope it isn’t.
Anyway this is more just fascism in general. A fast rise in authoritarianism. Not “war” in the classical sense, although it certainly is basically war.
only a matter of time now til political opponents start falling out of windows.
I don’t think that’s really the style in the US, but I agree with the sentiment
In the US, what’s more likely is that they find some random accusation to pin on you Abrego Garcia-style and then just keep you in the legal system gauntlet by adding new charges as soon as the timer runs out for trial on the old ones.
Very much along the lines I was thinking of, yeah.
just wait. its coming.
I think it’s gonna be functionally the same, but it’s gonna take a different form, is my point.
Every time I hear sirens, I feel scare af, thinking its the gestapo.
I’m a naturalized citizen btw, but I still don’t feel safe (I’m not white).
I’m white AF, and my family has been here since the 1650s on one side, and 1720s on the other side. We literally funded a decent portion of the revolution. I’m still scared. They are coming for everyone that isn’t them.
Hell, even birthright citizens aren’t safe if they are perceived as non-white.
Don’t worry, they won’t arrive in uniforms with sirens. They’ll arrive silently in masks.
1/4 is like 85 million people. some people are saying they aren’t concerned since they’re citizens but given what Trump has done, that can be stripped away at literally any moment
Meanwhile, I’m concerned about actual citizens being deported.
We can be concerned about anyone being deported
they aren’t concerned since they’re citizens
they aren’t concerned because they are psychoticly evil and utterly selfish cunts.
if you send those to CECOT the US will be actually a great place to be
I have a some very close friends who are Venezuelan. They all claim they aren’t worried because they are citizens, but I’m not so sure. The MAGA Nazis don’t respect Birthright Citizenship, they certainly aren’t going to respect naturalization.
Bottom line: If you were born somewhere else, they want you gone.
Hispanic people voting for Trump in 2024 will go down in history as the modern equivalent of the historical “Jews for Hitler” movement.
ICE has deported at least 70 US citizens (Source) The actual number could be wayyyy higher though
If that’s the bottom line, the fine print is that the elected American government wants you gone if you aren’t white. They don’t need to work on that layer yet.
Donald Trump could use the N-word on TV tomorrow and it would be accepted.
Nearly everyone close to me voted for Trump. I fucking hope they get deported.
Imagine what it’s doing to their children. Republicans and religious people who have a hand in this or turn a blind eye are filth. There’s no redemption for this.
TIL 3 out of 4 Americans need to get out more.
I mean 2 out of 4 believe the other 2 should be deported. 1 of those 2 don’t know that someone is trying to deport them. That’s the current state of America and how Trump got elected.
yeah but all 3 just don’t realize someone they know will get deported. first they came for the socialists, and all that.
The
socialistscommunists weren’t even the first people they came forwhat
First they came for the Communists…
Then they came for the Socialists…
Then they came for the trade unionists…
Then they came for the Jews…
Then they came for me…The poem starts with “first they came for the communists”, but by the time they actually came for the communists they had already started hunting down disabled and queer people. One of the first things they did was burn down the Institute of Sexology, but you never hear about it. By the time they come for the communists, it’s too late.
Same thing is happening today.
I left because I knew they’d be coming for me sooner rather than later. I’m a trans immigrant. I honestly kinda regret my citizenship because it’s keeping me chained to the reich even from abroad.
Most of them are in denial. Every time I bring it up to my friends they’re all like “yeah, but they won’t come after me.”
You will need to keep that hand iced. Maybe splint at night. If the skin breaks, get an ACE wrap.
Sorry, that sounds like a possibly risky amount of slapping you’ve been up to lately, especially if you’ve been (like most of us) in a low or no-slap lifestyle up until now.
Have a coworker with family in Iran. She just got her citizenship, but I have no idea how much that is even worth in the modern moment.
She’s a close friend and it was be a personal nightmare to lose her to some ICE thugs.
They shipped out Kilmar Abrego Garcia for something a cop said in 2019 based on an unidentified informant and they make up new lies about him all the time. They’re absolutely not above lying that someone falsified information on their naturalization papers.
And truthfully, it is impossible to fill out any immigration paperwork without “lying” on it. With the sheer amount of information they demand, it’s impossible to not make some mistake or leave something out.
Ogle and Mace sent an email asking to denaturalize primary winner of NYC. They’ll try and if they succeed they’ll do it to other people.
The videos all over the internet expose everything. I can’t imagine what it looks like from a normal country on the outside.
Horrifying and you are all apparently just complaining about on social media ( yes there have been a few protests, big whoop)
I protest once a month on a sunny Saturday that I don’t have errands or TV to catch up on.
This is what it is to live in a Nazi country
Arm yourself
Expect that when they come for youu, you aren’t coming back.
I have a friend from the Philippines who is in school to be a nurse. When this started, she was scared this was going to affect students which did end up being true later.
But fuck all if they could be bothered to vote…
Pew’s latest study suggests that Trump would have won even if they all voted.
Mostly because the majority of Americans seem to be OK with face eating leopards.
I mean he says that, but surely he doesn’t mean me…?
America is NOT a progressive country.
In general, the people ARE actually pretty progressive (as evidenced byprogressive policies tending to be favored by overwhelming majorities when not attached to the name of someone the establishment has spent millions if not billions vilifying).
The main problem is that the political system has fallen so deep into corruption that it’s a representative democracy in name only.
It’s way past time for rebellion against not just the fascists, but also the system itself and the Democrats who consider it more important than the general welfare of the people.
“the people are progressive”
Said about a country that voted for trump, twice. And every corporate democrat in every primary.
National elections are won by the over representation of land versus people and the winner-take-all electoral college.
It’s a very broken system but it’s the one we have. So yes, the people are progressive but land and the electoral college wins elections.
Trump won the electoral college twice, but the second one also the popular vote.
Both of those times were through an antiquated and unrepresentative system and with less than 50% the vote with low voter participation.
Less than a third of the eligible to vote population ≠ the country.
Well-meaning people pretending/being fooled into honestly believing that the presidential elections accurately reflect the will of the people without any trickery and downright fraud is how the corrupt demagoguery is allowed to persist.
Even less wanted something different, so that won.
No. Once again your blind trust in institutions leads you astray.
There are tens of millions of Americans for whom voting is made extremely difficult and time-consuming if not downright impossible to do by deliberate voter suppression tactics from (mostly but not exclusively) Republicans.
If there had been free, open, and fair elections, the GOP would never be able to win a nationwide election.
You don’t fix the system by assuming that it works as officially intended and blaming the powerless for the outcomes created by the powerful and corrupt.
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Exactly
This is why it’s so important to have Democratic politicians who actually stand for something.
I see so many people trapped in a state of denial about elections. They hold desperately to the idea that Democrats can somehow magically win simply by not being Republicans. That doesn’t work, hasn’t worked, and will never work. The problem with this standard is that it encourages Democrats to be only a tiny little bit better than the fascists, making the election fascist vs. fascist lite, so of course tons of people stay home.
But people like yelling at voters instead of the powerful politicians; it’s always easier to punch down than punch up. Republicans scapegoat minorities, Democrats scapegoat their voters. Democrats nominate fascist-lite candidates election after election and then bitch at the voters for not bothering to vote.
But denial apparently is a river in Egypt, so people will continue to blame voters instead of the fascist-lite Democrats.
butt fuck all!
Harris won more votes than Obama. Didn’t save her or the rest of the country.
Also, and this cannot fail to bare mentioning, Harris and Biden both campaigned on a policy of mass deportation. Dems are still bragging that they deported more people than Trump. Mass deportation is a bipartisan policy.
I have never seen a dem advertisement based on deportation.
To say “both sides” campaigned on a policy of mass deportation is a straight up lie. Mass deportation isn’t bi-partisan as you say… with zero proof no links and nothing to back up your bs… you offer no proof and are therefor a liar.
I have never seen a dem advertisement based on deportation.
Colin Allred made it the center of his Senate campaign against Ted Cruz.
To say “both sides” campaigned on a policy of mass deportation is a straight up lie.
Bragged about “the toughest border bill in decades” and promised to hire “thousands of new border guards”.
How is more border guards equal to “more deportations”?
More manpower makes for more arrests, more rapid processing of migrants, and more physical removals abroad.
Particularly when agents are given quotas to hit that exceed the number of migrants available for capture. We’ve seen how this played out under Greg Abbott in Texas during Operation Lone Star, a state that received $12B in federal reimbursements for the gruesome work done in 2022.
In what world is advocating for border security akin to rendering folks by masked individuals and trafficking them to foreign countries without due process…?
What democrat has ever advocated for ice to do what they’re currently doing?
Pointing to how democrats advocating that strengthening our border doesn’t require kidnapping…
Well you don’t really have a point do you?
In what world is advocating for border security
They weren’t advocating for security. They were advocating for more cops, more arrests, and more deportations.
Pointing to how democrats advocating that strengthening our border
Nothing either party has done has made the border more “secure”. The fact that you bought into this false narrative illustrates the damage the liberals have done. They’ve sold you the same bill of goods as the Republicans, in slightly different wrapping.
We’re at a point where we can’t say how secure or insecure the border is. Saying dems haven’t secured anything is a meaningless statement while republicans state immigrant hordes are eating dogs and cats…
Meanwhile democrats recognize the absurdity of painting immigrants with that brush while trying to be sensible with border policy given the line being fed to you folks about eating dogs all while you say any border action on behalf of dems is akin to masked ice agents trafficking mothers in broad daylight…
All of this is you letting trump dictate terms
Any Democrat? How about Kamala herself. Do you not remember Kamala’s “do not come” speech?
Do you remember the time she mentioned an immigrant horde coming to eat your dogs and cats?
Remember when as VP she directed ICE to render folks unconstitutionally and under masks?
I don’t cause you’re full of shit
You’re full of shit with your “when she was VP” loaded question.
What role does a VP have over ICE?
How is anything I said “loaded”?
You’re setting up a clearly misleading and manipulative standard so you can play some horseshit “gotcha” based on a technicality. Obviously the VP doesn’t control immigration, but who the fuck cares and why would you make that your standard? Kamala was running for president, and she promised to run her administration exactly like Biden’s. We have to judge Kamala by Biden’s performance, as she promised to continue his policies.
But here you are trying to defend her on a technicality, saying, “nu huh, acktually, she wasn’t in charge of immigration, she was only the VP!”
Manipulative petty bullshit. It’s transparently bad faith.
Bullshit and just stopped.
You could argue they campaigned on being tough on immigration, but deportation instead of path to citizenship where possible is the difference.
That is part of the outrage: Biden granted asylum, biden laid out a framework to get to citizenship, and trumps taking that away, arresting at court hearings of people who had been given a chance.
I am not a fan of biden, but what you are saying is bullshit and a major distraction.
