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  • zxqwas@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Tax. Noone wants their money to be taken away. But it’s probably a good idea to have at least some government funded stuff.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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      26 days ago

      I mean, corrupted administration aside, is it really even “evil” to fund a institution that forsee the development of your surrounding? If anything it’s simply quid pro quo, and people who generally against any taxation is always fishy to me.

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        26 days ago

        It’s evil to take someones money. It’s necessary because it funds the surrounding. A necessary evil, as op asked for.

        • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
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          26 days ago

          It’s evil to take someones money.

          Except when you are buying things? Look at it as living in society with roads, fire fighters and clean water requires a purchase.

          There is nothing morally wrong with paying people who provide a service.

          • Stovetop@lemmy.world
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            24 days ago

            I think it’s the distinction of whether or not it is voluntary. Buying things is a choice, taxes aren’t (outside of voting for certain political candidates who promise to use taxes in different ways).

            A lot of people out there have short-sighted mindsets like “Why do I have to pay for schools when I don’t have any kids?” or “I have my own insurance, why do I have to pay into someone else’s public healthcare too?” People can’t be relied on to make the spending choices needed to support a healthy and stable society on their own, so taxes and public spending make it for them.

            To add on to that, not all taxes fund things for the public good. In the US at least, and other countries with large military spending, one must accept that a lot of tax money goes to fund the military industrial complex. Taxes are also used to line the pockets of corporations via bailouts and overpriced government contracts.

            Now I also believe there is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, but taxes are nevertheless different from a voluntary exchange of currency for goods and services that one directly benefits from.

        • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zip
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          26 days ago

          It is only if it’s taken without something in return though, akin to stealing or robbing, else taking someones money in return for a service or goods would count as evil. Taxation always come with expectation of something in return, it’s in some way similar to paying for service.

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      26 days ago

      For the general masses that lack fucking brain cells. Some people actually comprehend the value of society and central public resources and WANT their money collectively put to good use.

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        26 days ago

        Polarization is causing a lot of people to doubt that the collective money actually will be put to good use. In a lot of places (like my country, Israel) they’re damn right, it’s not.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        That’s conservatives for you, whine about taxes but are total welfare queens. They don’t see having no income taxes in their states harm them, no schools no physicians.