• fodor@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    8 days ago

    You got to love the author of that article. If you want the lights to turn off and on normally, maybe people should use light switches. Those aren’t going to break due to software downgrades, those don’t require Gemini or internet connections.

    And I understand, there are rare situations when throwing the internet at your home appliances can make sense for solving niche problems. Those situations definitely exist, but for almost everyone almost all of the time, but it’s pretty fucking easy to turn lights off and on.

    • stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      47
      ·
      8 days ago

      Lights are one of the areas where I think automation is genuinely useful, but my rule with anything “Smart” is that it has to be able to run 100% locally.

      • cynar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        25
        ·
        7 days ago

        It also needs to fail gracefully. A smart switch needs to fail to a dumb switch, not “no switch”.

        • rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          and retire gracefully, where the device becomes open source and available to the community of owners who have invested in it.

        • IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 days ago

          You’re absolutely correct. I have few smart switches around the house and automations for yard lights and stuff like that are pretty nice to have but I still have the physical switch where the dumb switch was to interact with if the automations are down or I just want to override them. The ones I use even accept the same faceplate than traditional ones so there’s no change on anything unless you want to automate things.

    • Darren@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      7 days ago

      I have a fan plugged into a smart switch that I’ve set to turn off when I fade up my mic while doing my radio show. It’s the most glorious use of throwing the internet at a home appliance I’ve yet come up with.

    • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      7 days ago

      Automated lighting based on day of week and weather is fun tho, then again I run it through home assistant lol

    • Squizzy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      7 days ago

      These just dont need to be online. 90% of the use I have seen is timers and lights, like a half step above hello world.

      There is a market for voice assistants that are local.

      • cynar@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        7 days ago

        Home assistant is capable of it. Unfortunately it’s not yet overly user friendly about it, but it’s getting better rapidly.

        • Squizzy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 days ago

          I did see something recently about local LLMs and voice input layers. The post made it seem very Jarvis like, think it may have been the voice used or the name.

          Knowing nothing about tech other than I want my privacy I am hoping it is feasible for the common man

          • cynar@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            7 days ago

            It has several modes. The most basic is speech to text, pattern match, then implement. It also has text to speak for feedback. No actual AI in the loop.

            It’s also capable of tying to AI models in various ways. It’s mainly intended for question answering. Either general, or about your data.

            I personally don’t trust a non-deterministic AI having direct control of my house, so the split is useful.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      7 days ago

      I turn several lights on and off with a single command. The smart thermostat is the killer app for me though.

    • sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      7 days ago

      I have three lights that were wired to one switch. With smart bulbs, I can individually turn them on and off or dim them. No “dumb” solution exists for homes that were wired in a stupid way. This isn’t a niche application, it’s a common reality.

      • Pyr@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        7 days ago

        You can get socket extensions where the bulb goes into it and then each extension is connected to a wall mount remote switch. No wifi needed and then you have a wall switch for each bulb.

        Doesn’t fit into every light fixture though depends on the design.

        Edit:

        • sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          7 days ago

          If Google assistant ends up dying this is the way I’ll be going with. I’ve already got HA up, I’m just using stuff that predates my HA setup.