• Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      1 month ago

      Yes I expect to get downvoted

      You should. Not because you’re some bold warrior for free speech valiantly defying the woke mob like you seem to think, but because you’re just flat out wrong. You’re spreading disinformation and acting like you’re standing up for facts.

      Trans women who are engaged in medical transition are either taking high dose androgen blockers, or have had their source of androgens removed entirely. In fact, the average medically transitioning trans woman has less testosterone than the average cis woman. I know trans women who work out, who engage in physical sports and even combat sports. They struggle immensely with the fact that their bodies just flat out refuse to build muscle. I know people who do the kind of exercise and eat the kind of diet that would put the average guy at 200-220lbs within a year, and their bodies resolutely refuse to go past 140-160.

      Trans women are at an astonishing disadvantage in sports. The few who excel do so either because they’re in sports where those disadvantages don’t matter (in which case, there’s no advantage to be concerned about either) or do so in spite of those disadvantages. This can be seen in the numbers; until recent panics started leading to bannings, many international sports including pretty much all of the olympics allowed trans women to compete as their stated gender, and yet trans women are actually under-represented among trophy and medal holders. Statistically, by sheer population ratio, they should be winning more than they are.

      Transphobes love to latch on to any individual example of a trans woman performing well as if it justifies their argument, but when looked at in aggregate the statistics show that there is no danger of unfairness being posed by trans women in sports. No amount of bullshit about “bone density” and other meaningless shit that has never been suggested to matter in these competitions until hateful bigots needed an excuse can change the reality that sports are doing just fine. The only reason more trans women are winning in sports now is because more trans women are competing in sports, because more people feel comfortable openly expressing this part of their identity.

      • Ninjasftw@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I honestly struggle to understand how trans women are disadvantaged if they’ve been through puberty as boys. Every real world example I’ve seen of women competing against early pubescent boys goes very one way such as https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/alisha-lehmann-switzerland-euro-2025-hosts-thrashed-under-15-team/blt569915d6561b9a2a#csbd8503c0a0d0c04d

        Does the changes to bone structure and density and muscle composition fade away? Look it may all come under the negligible banner and that’s totally fine but the thing is that hand waving concerns and attacking anyone that has questions as transphobic doesn’t help when there legitimate concerns at high level sports.

        The fact that you consider bone density as “meaningless shit” doesn’t do your argument any benefits as its widely considered beneficial for sports performance.